Notices
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

Engine Noise

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 3, 2014 | 12:02 PM
  #1  
78REDFORD's Avatar
78REDFORD
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Rossville, IN
Engine Noise

Hello All!

I have a 1997 HD 7.3. Been a real good truck. Went to Virginia from Indiana last weekend to bring home small tractor. Cruising through the hills of SouthEast Kentucky and suddenly noticed a new sound coming from engine bay.

Yes, I was working the truck a little hard. My truck doesn't normally produce high amounts of unburned fuel out the exhaust during high acceleration or high load, however she was definitely pouring out the black smoke during one of the steady hill climbs. My guess is that EGT was beginning to get pretty warm. I don't have an EGT gauge, but I am running stock everything except for a 3.5 inch exhaust and a K&N filter.

Anyway - the new sound reminds me of exhaust leak or valve train tapping on my old Chevy 350. I experience no loss of power, fuel economy remains about same, and everything else seems normal. I only hear the sound during acceleration loaded or unloaded. Idling or revving engine in park does not make sound. Only when truck is in gear and moving (during a powerbrake, I can also get sound).

I have observed no new leaks. I cannot isolate the sound with the hood up since it only appears under load.

I am seeking some ideas of what to check and how to check it. No CEL, no nothing is giving me clues. Also, the sound is the same when truck is cold or hot....

Any help is greatly apprecieated. Sorry so long post......
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2014 | 01:04 PM
  #2  
Hussler's Avatar
Hussler
Postmaster
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,195
Likes: 6
From: Medford Oregon
Club FTE Silver Member

Check for clearance on down pipe, is it the 3" replacement? Sounds like it is rubbing on the firewall or transmission under load or when power braking.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2014 | 01:19 PM
  #3  
78REDFORD's Avatar
78REDFORD
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Rossville, IN
Originally Posted by Hussler
Check for clearance on down pipe, is it the 3" replacement? Sounds like it is rubbing on the firewall or transmission under load or when power braking.
10-4 Hussler - I'll check it out after work today!
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2014 | 07:32 PM
  #4  
ReBilld's Avatar
ReBilld
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 11,132
Likes: 3
From: Southern West Virginia
EGTs shouldn't be an issue with a stock truck. Sounds like you could possibly have an injector hammering, or have lost some compression on one cylinder. Also check the exhaust manifolds. Make sure all the bolts are in them and they are not leaking.
 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2014 | 07:58 PM
  #5  
RÖENTGEEP's Avatar
RÖENTGEEP
FOREIGN GURU
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,655
Likes: 7
From: Celaya, Gto. MX
Club FTE Silver Member

Question

It is standard or auto? . And get rid that K&N filter ASAP.


 
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2014 | 09:56 PM
  #6  
oldbird1965's Avatar
oldbird1965
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 20,418
Likes: 196
From: AZ
Club FTE Silver Member

Maybe the turbo isn't spooling up causing the black smoke.
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:05 AM
  #7  
78REDFORD's Avatar
78REDFORD
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Rossville, IN
K&N Filter?

Whats the issue with the K&N Filter? Just wondering..Hadn't heard that they were bad..
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:06 AM
  #8  
78REDFORD's Avatar
78REDFORD
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: Rossville, IN
Originally Posted by oldbird1965
Maybe the turbo isn't spooling up causing the black smoke.
I think Turbo is fine. Normal power and fuel economy. I can still stomp on the accelerator and she'll get right with it with little to no black smoke.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:16 AM
  #9  
DIYMechanic's Avatar
DIYMechanic
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,121
Likes: 3
From: Orrville, Ohio
It sounds to me like the added heat and pressure of towing heavy may have helped you blow a seal out of the stock up-pipes. That would explain the smoke since a significant boost leak can cause the turbo not to spool. Look carefully at the up-pipes for soot at the connections.

I also agree with Bill that it could be an injector that is hanging. These engines can make some really weird sounds when the injectors aren't happy!
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:53 AM
  #10  
RÖENTGEEP's Avatar
RÖENTGEEP
FOREIGN GURU
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,655
Likes: 7
From: Celaya, Gto. MX
Club FTE Silver Member

Exclamation

Originally Posted by 78REDFORD
Whats the issue with the K&N Filter? Just wondering..Hadn't heard that they were bad..
They are known as a dusting turbo/engine. Im searching for a good write up about the bad things of the K&N Filters, but I cant find it. Seems that the searching tool is not working as it should, I put 6637 and came a lot of links, but none mention de 6637 Is just me or what?, anybody else?



 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 10:13 AM
  #11  
RÖENTGEEP's Avatar
RÖENTGEEP
FOREIGN GURU
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,655
Likes: 7
From: Celaya, Gto. MX
Club FTE Silver Member

Arrow

More about K&N:
The K&N element should probably be avoided in turbo-charged applications. The initial filtration efficiency is not high enough to protect the compressor impeller.
K&N The problem is the thickness of the stacked gauze media will not allow for a high pleat count and severely restricts the available surface area. A typical RD-1460 that is used in a FIPK system only has about 44 pleats. The Donaldson is not only a larger filter overall, but the thinner media allows for 202 pleats, leaving us over 5 times the surface area to pull from. This is why it can outflow and out filter a re-usable element as long as minimum radial clearance is maintained.
Here are some comparison tests:
ISO 5011 Duramax Air Filter Test Report
More to read:
K&N Air Filter or ?? [Archive] - Ford Truck Fanatics

But in reallity the link Im trying to find, has a very good info. IIRC the title was: Different or best alternative to damage your engine with a K&N, or something like that. Im pretty sure that somebody will chime in here with the correct link.


 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sfgiantsfan9
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
7
Dec 14, 2007 09:32 AM
Fraalan
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
Dec 4, 2006 10:26 AM
perw
1978 - 1996 Big Bronco
11
Sep 15, 2004 10:48 PM
Jet Lizard
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
5
Apr 6, 2004 11:10 AM
ItsReallyDarren
1997 - 2003 F150
3
Mar 9, 2004 07:44 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:45 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE