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The transfer case isn't stock 3/4 ton either...sounds pretty darn good to me.
The H2 uses a brand new transfer case built by Borg-Warner. The 44-84 allows a 40/60 torque split to the front and rear axles. The 44-84 is a full-time 4WD transfer case with a planetary center differential. This case allows five different settings:
- 4HI Open (dry road surfaces
- 4HI Locked (semi-slippery surfaces)
- 4LO Locked (severe off-pavement use)
- 4LO Locked + Eaton electronic rear differential locker (climbing and steep grades)
- Neutral (flat towing), 4 Lo Lock.
The H2 uses a brand new transfer case built by Borg-Warner. The 44-84 allows a 40/60 torque split to the front and rear axles. The 44-84 is a full-time 4WD transfer case with a planetary center differential. This case allows five different settings:
- 4HI Open (dry road surfaces
- 4HI Locked (semi-slippery surfaces)
- 4LO Locked (severe off-pavement use)
- 4LO Locked + Eaton electronic rear differential locker (climbing and steep grades)
- Neutral (flat towing), 4 Lo Lock.
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Then I guess the TV show I was watching about the H2 was wrong. BTW, I know a service manager at a dealer that sells H2's. He says they are the biggest piece of junk he's ever seen.
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Now granted, when I first posted on this I had in my head in was a normal hummer, rather than an H2 (despite Ryan clearly mentioning it....ah well). BUT, I still would pay for a pic of one of our old Fords pulling out some yuppie in his 70k hummer wannabe. To be honest, I don't think highly of the H2s at all, but you have to admit they are still set up better than the other SUVs they market to the soccer moms. To each their own.......I won't go postal untill I see one lowered (you realize its a matter of time....)
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compare the h2s specs to that of a jeep wrangler....you'll be in for a suprise when the h2's have better abilities....oh crap...i'm arguing for a GM product...someone hit me
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With everything you mention, the H2 is just a built Tahoe with off the shelf aftermarket parts. Now compare apples to apples:
I'd match the Wrangler Rubicon against the H2. 4 to 1 transfer case (who needs a torque sensing center locking TC), Front and rear locking differentials, proven Dana 44's front and rear w/4.10 gears, great suspension design, a price tag about 30-40K cheaper.
Jason
I'd match the Wrangler Rubicon against the H2. 4 to 1 transfer case (who needs a torque sensing center locking TC), Front and rear locking differentials, proven Dana 44's front and rear w/4.10 gears, great suspension design, a price tag about 30-40K cheaper.
Jason
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Originally posted by proeliator
To each their own.......I won't go postal untill I see one lowered (you realize its a matter of time....)
To each their own.......I won't go postal untill I see one lowered (you realize its a matter of time....)
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ok....i've yet to find anything the tahoe and H2 share...different motors, different axles, different frames, ok the tranny is the same as a tahoe, but the tahoe only has a 5.3 motor available, the transfer case sounds pretty trick to me. I don't wanna start a long drawn out argument, so i'll leave it at this. To each his own, i just think the H2 deserves more credit than most are giving it. If it were built by ford i think we'd have a lot less hatred toward it. LOL
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OK, it was a Suburban, not a Tahoe. The rear is a 9.5" 14 bolt, the front diff is pretty much standard GM IFS issue. What happened to the geared hubs and all that ground clearance from the original?
6.0, standard in the 3/4 ton Burb.
To me, it has nothing to do with a Ford and Chevy rivalry. I'd feel the same way if it had a blue oval on it.
The first generation Hummer was a capable vehicle with great components that was adapted for civilian use. Very few who bought one actually had plans to take it off road. But if they did, it was built to take the abuse, go almost anywhere, do almost anything they wanted it to do.
The second generation is a fashion statement. While they kept some of the original styling, they made the drivetrain and the comfort level to appeal to someone in the market for a Navigator, or an Escalade. The toughness is gone, the capability is lost. The "I have 37" tires stock, and I can go anywhere" presence is history. All these people have bought with their 60-100 grand is a name, and not much more.
Jason
6.0, standard in the 3/4 ton Burb.
To me, it has nothing to do with a Ford and Chevy rivalry. I'd feel the same way if it had a blue oval on it.
The first generation Hummer was a capable vehicle with great components that was adapted for civilian use. Very few who bought one actually had plans to take it off road. But if they did, it was built to take the abuse, go almost anywhere, do almost anything they wanted it to do.
The second generation is a fashion statement. While they kept some of the original styling, they made the drivetrain and the comfort level to appeal to someone in the market for a Navigator, or an Escalade. The toughness is gone, the capability is lost. The "I have 37" tires stock, and I can go anywhere" presence is history. All these people have bought with their 60-100 grand is a name, and not much more.
Jason