I'm not certain of anything. The filter is just another layer of protection. I am able to check it with just a glance. If I get a gallon of water In the fuel nothing will help.

 

A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. What you cant see can hurt ya. but if you can see very easily may save ya in the end. its entirely up to the individual of installing one. Yall rememmber those clear filters you had on older vehicles. i wonder why they had them? so you could see. Nothing in life is a 100% except we all are gonna die. Have a great day.

 

I would get one if it REPLACED the stock DFCM.
IF it (the stock DFCM) deosn't work properly then get it gone!

Just my HO, for those that have it all the power to you, if it gives you peace of mind all the better. Fuel can't be tooooo clean

Good luck with your install seabee

 

I suspect there are more then a few folks who would argue the stock DFCM really doesn't work properly! I'm not one of them, of course.

I guess that's the bottom line. Piece of mind. Especially when I'm a thousand miles from home with that 35 foot 5th wheel coming along behind and I find myself having to get fuel from something other then a good high volume station. If I start seeing a lot (or maybe even any) water in the Dieselsite filter I have the option to stop, get the truck towed in and the fuel tanks checked and drained. Might even call my insurance company and see if they would pay for that in order to avoid a potential catastrophic failure.

Additionally, keeping an eye on water in the filters between fill-ups makes it easier to identify where the water came from. Thousands of miles with no water then suddenly I see water a few miles after filling up at Bubba's Pump n' Go in Nowhere USA gives the insurance company something to sink their teeth into.

Having the extra layer of protection and the ability to check it at a glance is worth twice the price to me!

 

I'm not counting on this to stop a gallon of water. I'm counting on it to stop a pint of water. I'm also counting on the fact that to check it, I don't have to crawl under the truck. I can stoop down beside the truck and see what is in the bowls. When the weather sucks, I can easily see what is going on. The more "wide spots" you have in the piping and the more low point drains, the better (to an extent) - in my opinion. Thanks for the well wishes Darrin.

 

I'm glad that I asked my question. I thought this was a fix for the Ford filter in that it would prevent all water from entering the system. Now I understand that it's just more of the same. A second filter prior to the Ford one. Thanks.

bruce....

 

Yes and no. The Dieselsite Filters are 2 micron filters, I believe the factory is a 7 or 10 Micron (I cant remember off the top of my head at this time).

With the dieselsite filter set up you have the fuel run through two (2 micron) filters, and 2 extra chances of filtering out water before even hitting the factory DFCM.

It is a very low chance already if you are going to get contaminated fuel, but for myself with my tax return I felt getting it would help out in the short comings of the factory set up.

GM is have the same issues but at a smaller rate, and looking at the GM board they are surmising that it has to do with the better factory fuel filter set up compared to the Ford set up.

I have a diesel mechanic friend that will pull my fuel pressure regulator and inspect it in August(1 year mark for my truck) for any corrosion. I will report back with pics at that time.

If corrosion is discovered, then what should I do? My first response is trade it in on something else, but then the poor next owner will eventually get screwed. It will be a decision that is both a financial one and a moral/ethical one at the same time.

Dang I'm ranting again.

2013 F250, 6.7 Lariat CCSB 4X4, 3.31 Locking Rear, 275/70R18 Duratracs, BakFlip F1 W/ BakBox, Titan 50gal Tank, Dieselsite Fuel/water separators Edge CTS. Soon to be installed: Offroad H&S XRT Pro and hollowed out DPF/SCR from a donor vehicle

 

I know that this video is a plug for Cummins filtration/fleetguard, but I wonder if Ford has the same features on the filter? RAM currently has 2 filters, both with WIF sensors and both drainable as well. Both are also 5 micron filters I believe. And both have a hydrophobic filter layer in there as well. Of course, the bad part is that a pair of filters is just under 100 bucks for my truck. This was honestly something that I took into consideration when moving from my F-150 to an HD truck.

I wonder if Ford's filters pas SAE J1488 as sited in the video below.

 

Primary Filter is 10 Microns and the Secondary Filter is 4 Microns.

 

Well gang, it's not often that I have a few minutes of free time with decent weather and no other obligations, but that ended up being the case after I got home from work today. I decided to finally install my filter/separator.
After getting everything set up for the install (tools, light, creeper, etc) and removing the nuts from the frame rail/DFCM, I put the filter/separator in place and started to re-install the nuts (even had Locktight on the threads). It was then I noticed that the parking brake cable was really close to the top of the filter housing. Upon closer inspection (before tightening the nuts), I found that if I kept going, the parking brake cable would actually be contacting the top of the housing and putting pressure on the entire assembly. Needless to say, I took it back off and it is now back in my garage awaiting "Plan B". I think a half inch drop would do well. A quarter inch would suffice, but I prefer a little margin for slack in the cable when released.
I called Dieselsite, but it was after hours, so I left them a message. Hopefully, they will call me back tomorrow and provide a fix. Obviously, I could drill new holes and lower the assembly myself, and that may be what ends up happening, but I shouldn't have to. If that ends up being the case, so much for a 15 minute install. It's a shame too, because after crawling under the truck and looking around, it was going to be extremely easy to do. I didn't even need a screwdriver to pop the quick connect fittings loose from the DFCM. (I popped them loose, but did NOT take them off.)
This sux. I was psyched to finally have a small window of opportunity to get this done.

If you have a truck with the same config as my sig truck, you may want to wait before ordering on of these.

 

Hey Doug........Ya wanta buy 2 of them......
Sure.....you can give the extra one to a fellow Sailor.................

 

Roy, as much as I'd like to help a fellow Navy man, see my previous post. My 15 minute install, just turned into a hour and a half install - and it ain't on yet.
I have to say, the crew at Dieselsite are first rate with regards to customer service. My call was returned within 30 minutes of placing it - even though it was after hours. After an initial discussion of my issue with a possible solution offered, I emailed them pics of what I was experiencing. I tried their possible solution and it didn't provide the clearance that I needed. I ended up oblonging the holes in their mounting bracket, on the housing side, to allow it to drop. I only needed a 1/4", but wound up with a 1/2" when I was finished. If I have another window of opportunity tomorrow, I will once again attempt to get it installed.
After speaking with their tech, it appears as though he is using my pics to do a small modification for future shipments, so that this will no longer be a possible issue. I have sent him pics of the results of the mods - uninstalled - with recommendations, and will provide pics of the result once completed and functioning.

Roy, PM me with shipping details. I'll have one sent to you. Thank you for your service sir. I'm still trying to catch up on the "One page.." Much respect for you.

 

When I put it on my 2013 the brake line was about 1/8 inch higher than the assembly. Maybe a slight change for the 2014's

 

I have been talking with DieselSite and no mention of this with the 2011's.

I think you are right....there has been slight changes in the model years.

 

Doug, sorry to hear about the issue that you are having. Are you the first 2014 to get on of these systems?



Roy, I have DieselSite's equipment on my 2012 and it bolted right up. If it bolts to a 12' then you should be fine on an 11'. This is just me speculating.