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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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I am going to change the front and rear fluid tomorrow and I have some questions about the front. It seems that most of the gear oils have friction modifier in them for limited slip. My guess is I probably shouldn't use this in the front since it isn't limited slip? Is this correct?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 01:03 PM
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Looks like you are correct.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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I wouldn't bother changing the front differential oil unless you think it's been contaminated. The front diff doesn't spin at all unless the truck is in 4WD. Even if you have some HEAVY use of the four wheel drive you'd be lucky to put on 1,000 miles per year on the front axle. No way that oil is worn out!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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The only problem you could have with the front one is water contamination and just regular 90 wt. will work in there. The rear won't need modifier unless you have a limited slip and won't necessarily need it then. Most oil doesn't have modifier but read the label. Ford doesn't recommend changing the rear oil for 150K miles. The main thing is to make sure they are full and not contaminated.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I wouldn't bother changing the front differential oil unless you think it's been contaminated. The front diff doesn't spin at all unless the truck is in 4WD. Even if you have some HEAVY use of the four wheel drive you'd be lucky to put on 1,000 miles per year on the front axle. No way that oil is worn out!
your mileage/usage may vary, i put 4,000-5,000 a year in 4x4 high.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 04:59 PM
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It doesn`t matter if you use gear oil with friction modifier, it won`t hurt it. now you do need it if you have a limited slip!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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your mileage/usage may vary, i put 4,000-5,000 a year in 4x4 high.
But the strain is divided between the front and rear. Front diffs get very little use any way you look at it.
 
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But the strain is divided between the front and rear. Front diffs get very little use any way you look at it.
never commented on any "strain" just the mileage comment, some use it more then others.

@ 132k now and as far as i know on factory diff fluid. i plan on re-gearing and adding a tru-trac to the rear so it'll get new fluid then.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Any reason to change it in the rear for preventative maintenance? I have a little over 100k and am 2wd only. I assume it's just

Remove cover + brake clean + check for damage + rtv + reinstall cover + refill + let sit overnight = profit?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 05:54 PM
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Any reason to change it in the rear for preventative maintenance? I have a little over 100k and am 2wd only. I assume it's just

Remove cover + brake clean + check for damage + rtv + reinstall cover + refill + let sit overnight = profit?
You forgot the most important step add a mag Hytec or 2008 sd dif cover.
The mag Hytec includes an O ring no need to wait to drive her away
 
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Originally Posted by AlaskanEx
never commented on any "strain" just the mileage comment, some use it more then others.

@ 132k now and as far as i know on factory diff fluid. i plan on re-gearing and adding a tru-trac to the rear so it'll get new fluid then.
Just sayin' you can cut that mileage in half.
 
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Any reason to change it in the rear for preventative maintenance? I have a little over 100k and am 2wd only. I assume it's just

Remove cover + brake clean + check for damage + rtv + reinstall cover + refill + let sit overnight = profit?
150k..........it's in the manual.
 
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Originally Posted by Apocalypse
Any reason to change it in the rear for preventative maintenance? I have a little over 100k and am 2wd only. I assume it's just

Remove cover + brake clean + check for damage + rtv + reinstall cover + refill + let sit overnight = profit?
Sort of. DON'T use brake cleaner. I think it's not supposed to not leave a residue, but it's possible that it could contaminate your new fluid and damage your differential. You don't spray brake cleaner in your oil fill when you change the engine oil, and there's no reason to do that to your differential.

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You forgot the most important step add a mag Hytec or 2008 sd dif cover.
The mag Hytec includes an O ring no need to wait to drive her away
Eh, I don't see the point of the Mag-Hytec cover. If you want the aluminum look you can get a factory '08+ cover for around $50. And a gasket is less than $10 at any parts store.
 
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Sort of. DON'T use brake cleaner. I think it's supposed to not leave a residue, but it's possible that it could contaminate your new fluid and damage your differential. You don't spray brake cleaner in your oil fill when you change the engine oil, and there's no reason to do that to your differential.



Eh, I don't see the point of the Mag-Hytec cover. If you want the aluminum look you can get a factory '08+ cover for around $50. And a gasket is less than $10 at any parts store.
I agree, that's why I added it to my post. I'm blessed and don't have to worry about things like that
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Nothing you use to clean the diff is going to contaminate anything, it's not like its your drinking water. Also, the stock cover is fine unless you want to impress the local alley cats.
A good slug of water will contaminate it.
 
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