AC Single Shot Injectors
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AC Single Shot Injectors
I'm considering (in the not-so-near future) going to the AC injectors. If I was to do that, am I tied to a tuner from that point forward, or can the PCM be reflashed to run without a tuner or a programmer on the truck? It's more a matter of curiosity at this point, but something I'd like to know before I start to get more serious about pulling the trigger.
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Can a tuner or programmer be added after? My thought - which may be wrong - is that if I was to do it with only a tuner, and the tuner went haywire I'd be stuck with an undriveable truck. If the PCM had been flashed for the injectors and had a problem, I'd at least be able to remove it and use the truck while I figured out what to do. Is that about right, or am I missing something?
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If your in Dallas stop by and chat with Tony Wildman, he's right in your backyard. If you need new tunes or live tuning (most likely won't) you can get it all done at once and get it done right. (Total Diesel Performance)
Also check out North Texas Powerstroke's Annualy get together at the Caddo Mills KOA and thier monthly get-togethers. Plenty of AC injector setups running around there!
North Texas Power Stroke Association - LINK
Also check out North Texas Powerstroke's Annualy get together at the Caddo Mills KOA and thier monthly get-togethers. Plenty of AC injector setups running around there!
North Texas Power Stroke Association - LINK
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First, let's clarify chip vs. tuner. Getting a chip on your PCM to run the AC's will work fine. If the chip somehow goes haywire, then you can remove it and drive the truck with stock programming and your AC injectors. It will drive fine, it will just sound like an old gasser with a big race cam in it while it lopes embarrassingly loud at idle.
As Rich mentioned, Tony is over on the North side of Fort Worth, so if something did go wrong with the chip, you could always drive over to see him to get it fixed if you didn't want to wait on the mail.
As Rich mentioned, Tony is over on the North side of Fort Worth, so if something did go wrong with the chip, you could always drive over to see him to get it fixed if you didn't want to wait on the mail.
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Can a tuner or programmer be added after? My thought - which may be wrong - is that if I was to do it with only a tuner, and the tuner went haywire I'd be stuck with an undriveable truck. If the PCM had been flashed for the injectors and had a problem, I'd at least be able to remove it and use the truck while I figured out what to do. Is that about right, or am I missing something?
What part are you talking about removing? The only way to remove the flash on a PCM is to take out the PCM and send it to a tuner.....if I read your post correctly.
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Can a tuner or programmer be added after? My thought - which may be wrong - is that if I was to do it with only a tuner, and the tuner went haywire I'd be stuck with an undriveable truck. If the PCM had been flashed for the injectors and had a problem, I'd at least be able to remove it and use the truck while I figured out what to do. Is that about right, or am I missing something?
My answer to this is why not? I'd think that'd be easy-peezy for DP, PHP, Wildman, or any others.
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If your in Dallas stop by and chat with Tony Wildman, he's right in your backyard. If you need new tunes or live tuning (most likely won't) you can get it all done at once and get it done right. (Total Diesel Performance)
Also check out North Texas Powerstroke's Annualy get together at the Caddo Mills KOA and thier monthly get-togethers. Plenty of AC injector setups running around there!
North Texas Power Stroke Association - LINK
Also check out North Texas Powerstroke's Annualy get together at the Caddo Mills KOA and thier monthly get-togethers. Plenty of AC injector setups running around there!
North Texas Power Stroke Association - LINK
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Your not too far off. IIRC you can drive with single shot AC's on stock split shot programs, but it will idle rough and have some very hard cold starts.
What part are you talking about removing? The only way to remove the flash on a PCM is to take out the PCM and send it to a tuner.....if I read your post correctly.
What part are you talking about removing? The only way to remove the flash on a PCM is to take out the PCM and send it to a tuner.....if I read your post correctly.
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I've had the old antique Van Ayken style chip on my F-250 for 9 years. Tuners don't even use that one anymore.....
The TS chip has been on my Excursion for 3 years with no problems......
Like Chris Said - if you need to you can run on the split shot programming, you won't like the idle & cold starts, but u can.
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You really don't need to. The truck will run, albeit like crap, with the stock double shot program. I ran mine like that for a while when I was switching tuners.
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I would, but as Chris and Duncan have said, you don't have to. I wouldn't like driving it with the stock programming dealing with that funky idle. Heck, my idle is a little screwed up right now and I don't like it. I have to fix my up-pipes and get a new intake first, then I am going to deal with the programming side of things after I know, it's not those things that are contributing to it. Flashing the PCM isn't that expensive, and to me, it would be worth having it flashed with an 80E tune.