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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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9 inch vs. Explorer L73

Help me decide. Remember, my project is a low buck build but this issue is killing me. I have no traction on wet roads and I think posi traction (originally a chevy term) will solve my problem. I have a 9 inch open 2.91 with 1-3/4 brakes. I want to install an Eaton truetrac (p/n 912A587) but it won't work with my gears (trac loc won't either). Truetrac, 3:50 ring and pinon, bearings, seal and gasket will cost a grand plus I gota learn how to install the gears. I probably aught to replace wheel bearings while I'm at it. OR I buy this for only $250. Probably a lot more work fitting it to my truck and TrueTrac is probbly better than tracloc and the 9 inch is way cooler but rear disk brakes are probably better. After selling my 9 inch this will be about $1000 cheaper. Even if I put a new TrueTrac in the 8.8 I'll be $500 cheaper than building the 9 inch.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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I picked up an 8.8 with 3.73s posi and disc brakes and sway bar. Swapped the whole thing in including the sway bar. All I had to do was weld spring perches on the top side. I set the perches up at the same width and angle as the old ones. Keep in mind the pinion is offset about 2" to the right but shouldn't be a problem.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 07:05 PM
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Oh yea and was out of an explorer and put it in a 53 F 100
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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What year explorer is optimal?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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Disc brakes on Explorers from 2000.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pholmes350
I picked up an 8.8 with 3.73s posi and disc brakes and sway bar. Swapped the whole thing in including the sway bar. All I had to do was weld spring perches on the top side. I set the perches up at the same width and angle as the old ones. Keep in mind the pinion is offset about 2" to the right but shouldn't be a problem.
What did you do to adapt the rear end pinion flange to the driveshaft? And what driveshaft/tranny?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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Here's a link to some good info on rear end swaps:

1948 through 1960 Ford F-1 and F-100 Rear Axle (differential) Swaps .: Articles

I also got the aluminum driveshaft out of the exploder. I will have to get the driveline shop to build a shaft with the flange on the backend and the correct yoke to fit the stock 3 speed on the front.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Wayne Waldrep
What did you do to adapt the rear end pinion flange to the driveshaft? And what driveshaft/tranny?
you can get a flange for the rear of the driveshaft

Mustang Driveshaft Flange Yoke fits 7.5 and 8.8 inch Rear Ends 1310 Series with small Ford bolt pattern


Or get a 8.8 U-joint yoke.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ms...FStgMgodPxEASw


either will solve the driveshaft to 8.8 issue.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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my explorer 8.8 bolted right in above the springs. I did use some shims to get the angle right. Also had to build some shock mounts.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by topmoo
Disc brakes on Explorers from 2000.
Disc brakes actually started in 96...
The year is not so important, other than mileage, than the model of the Explorer...get an XLT, it comes standard with Trac-Loc, 31 spline axles, and 3.73 gears. The end flanges on these rearend housings are the same as the big bearing 9 inch rearends but the tubes are actually 3.25 diameter...much stronger.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:29 AM
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You are right Charlie, mine is a 2000. I forgot the comma. Another nice thing about the Explorer (31 spline 3 1/4" tube w/disc brakes) rear is that the emergency brake is a separate small drum brake that is fairly easy to run cables to.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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When I built the 9 inch for my truck I bought the rear brake kit from FRPP brand new...it was around $400 as I recall. These brakes were so popular that Ford brought them out as a kit for all of us who wanted to dump the drums. The last 8.8 I bought (a 2000 year model as well) I got for $120 at a yard here in town...that was a super price for this area but even at the going rate, buying a complete rearend is much cheaper than buying the FRPP kit new.
As an added note, LOKAR makes some VERY nice e-brake cables for these kits/brakes.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ryans88gt
my explorer 8.8 bolted right in above the springs. I did use some shims to get the angle right. Also had to build some shock mounts.
All very good info. I like the sounds of this and the info for the yoke flange adapter. I might still have to get the drive shaft length modified, hopefully shortened.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieLed
Disc brakes actually started in 96...
The year is not so important, other than mileage, than the model of the Explorer...get an XLT, it comes standard with Trac-Loc, 31 spline axles, and 3.73 gears. The end flanges on these rearend housings are the same as the big bearing 9 inch rearends but the tubes are actually 3.25 diameter...much stronger.
is there a difference between std. and XLT model rear ends. I can't find any other forums or web sites that talk about this.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:23 PM
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The base model Explorer has 28 spline axles and no TracLoc. I believe that this configuration is the same as the Ranger truck. Lots of sources out there on the web, here is just one: The Ford Explorer 8.8-Inch Axle Swap
 
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