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I live in Victoria, Texas and am looking for a location resonably close to my area to do an oil analysis of a 2001 PSD I recently purchased. I am not even sure who does these as I have never had one done before. I want to start off on the right foot with the truck and want to know what is going on internally before I put too many miles on it.
Thanks for your assistance in this matter.
Ted
Thanks for your assistance in this matter.
Ted
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Ted,
The kits come with prepaid postage back to the Lab so it does not really matter if the Lab is local. I use ANA Laboritories in NJ
www.analaboratories.com
These kits are 10 bucks without TBN and only 2 more to add the TBN to be checked also " highly recommended"
Tha San Antonio Cat Dealer also offers a good service at 12 bucks and includes TBN.
Some are 18 bucks and higher,,just not such a good deal in comparison to these examples although there are more Labs to choose from.
There are certain variables that arise so if you get a result please post and I'll be glad to comment and or help you to interpit it.
The kits come with prepaid postage back to the Lab so it does not really matter if the Lab is local. I use ANA Laboritories in NJ
www.analaboratories.com
These kits are 10 bucks without TBN and only 2 more to add the TBN to be checked also " highly recommended"
Tha San Antonio Cat Dealer also offers a good service at 12 bucks and includes TBN.
Some are 18 bucks and higher,,just not such a good deal in comparison to these examples although there are more Labs to choose from.
There are certain variables that arise so if you get a result please post and I'll be glad to comment and or help you to interpit it.
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I get oil analysis by mail, Blackstone Labs. They send you a collection bottle and mailing container, you mail your sample to them with payment and they e-mail or mail your results. Call them at (260) 744-2380 for details.
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Finally got my analysis back. This is what the report showed:
Titanium -1
Silver -1
Copper 8
Lead 3
Tin 7
Aluminum 4
Nickel -1
Iron 17
Chromium -1
Cd -1
Sodium 11
Boron 119
Silicon 4
Water % by Vol -.05
% Soot -.2
Glycol N
Fuel -.5
TBN mg/g 10.5
Analysis showed a severity code of 1. Indicates overall satisfactory conditions. I have never had an analysis done before, so guys let me know if there is anything I need to be aware of. This analysis was taken on my F350 PSD shortly after purchase with approximately 52000 miles on the odometer. Have no idea when it was last changed or not. Will be getting another analysis when I change my oil the next time which will probably be in a couple of months.
Thanks for any input
Ted
Titanium -1
Silver -1
Copper 8
Lead 3
Tin 7
Aluminum 4
Nickel -1
Iron 17
Chromium -1
Cd -1
Sodium 11
Boron 119
Silicon 4
Water % by Vol -.05
% Soot -.2
Glycol N
Fuel -.5
TBN mg/g 10.5
Analysis showed a severity code of 1. Indicates overall satisfactory conditions. I have never had an analysis done before, so guys let me know if there is anything I need to be aware of. This analysis was taken on my F350 PSD shortly after purchase with approximately 52000 miles on the odometer. Have no idea when it was last changed or not. Will be getting another analysis when I change my oil the next time which will probably be in a couple of months.
Thanks for any input
Ted
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Well if that's the original factory fill it looks pretty good. Your next analysis may show less wear metal like copper, aluminum and iron. But still very good, as it would seem the lab assigned it their highest grade. I recently did analysis on a remanufactured engine and the wear metals were easily double what you posted.
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Thanks for the reply Scott. This engine actually has 52,000 miles on it so I doubt it was original factory fill. Therefore, I am not sure what to make of these figures. I guess I need to read up on the different wear metals and what the indicate might be a growing concern or if there is no concern at all. I kind of think that there is not a concern at this time. Again thanks for the reply.
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D'oh! (smacks forehead) 
For some reason I was thinking it was a new truck with 5,200 miles on it!
Here's a generic wear metal description:
aluminum: pistons, thrust washers, bushings
lead: overlay on main and rod bearings
copper: bearings, bushings, thrust washers. can be used in assembly compounds and motor oil additives
chromium: piston parts such as piston rings, bearings
iron: gears, shafts,cylinders, valve train components, other steel components and rust
tin: piston place coating, overlay on main and rod bearings
(I'm not sure what 'piston place coating' is, but assume it's in the grooves where the rings fit and the holes where the pistons are pinned to the rods.)
I still think your analysis looks pretty good. Let's see what everyone else has to say.
Scott
For some reason I was thinking it was a new truck with 5,200 miles on it!Here's a generic wear metal description:
aluminum: pistons, thrust washers, bushings
lead: overlay on main and rod bearings
copper: bearings, bushings, thrust washers. can be used in assembly compounds and motor oil additives
chromium: piston parts such as piston rings, bearings
iron: gears, shafts,cylinders, valve train components, other steel components and rust
tin: piston place coating, overlay on main and rod bearings
(I'm not sure what 'piston place coating' is, but assume it's in the grooves where the rings fit and the holes where the pistons are pinned to the rods.)
I still think your analysis looks pretty good. Let's see what everyone else has to say.
Scott
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Thanks Scott, I will be doing another analysis after I change the oil the second time with actual mileage usage. I changed the first time from what was in it to get a baseline for future oil changes and am not even sure how many miles the oil had on it. The doesn't help me much as far as the wear metals go. But I will see with the next oil change if the wear metals stay the same or go up in content. Again I appreciate the info.
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Because of the high TBN I would assume that it has not been in the motor very long. You are missing some key ingredients with this analysis. Is this the entire analysis? The high ( maybe so, maybe no) iron of 17 may be attributable to the truck sitting on a car lot for awhile. Humidity gets high in your area and it won't take long for an engine to develop surface rust on the internals(iron). For a diesel oil, I find the boron at 119 interesting. Great additive. Silicon at 4 also indicates the oil hasn't been in it very long. This analysis is a good place to start for your trending the engine. When you changed the oil, what brand and viscosity did you use?
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Good to see your analysis. The rest of your additives are in the upper right hand corner of the sheet they sent you. Please post them if you have time. If you turn it over there is a pretty good description of wear metal sources , additive functions ect.
All looks well but the sodium just might be from road salt . That could be why the iron was high given it's obvious that because the TBN was still high the oil had not been in there for too long a period/miles. Too bad the oil is unknown but if you post the rest it will help try to unravel the mystery oils origin--He He
For those that like a dose of motor oil with their Boron
the Motorcraft 15/40 uses around 350 parts per million of it. This oil is $ 1.50 a quart and IMO is THE oil to use in a PSD
BTW,what oil are you using on this interval ?
Looking forward to your next one .
Good to see your analysis. The rest of your additives are in the upper right hand corner of the sheet they sent you. Please post them if you have time. If you turn it over there is a pretty good description of wear metal sources , additive functions ect.
All looks well but the sodium just might be from road salt . That could be why the iron was high given it's obvious that because the TBN was still high the oil had not been in there for too long a period/miles. Too bad the oil is unknown but if you post the rest it will help try to unravel the mystery oils origin--He He
For those that like a dose of motor oil with their Boron
the Motorcraft 15/40 uses around 350 parts per million of it. This oil is $ 1.50 a quart and IMO is THE oil to use in a PSDBTW,what oil are you using on this interval ?
Looking forward to your next one .
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I left the analysis at the house this morning. I will post all the other information off the sheet this evening or tomorrow. This vehicle did sit on a lot for over 4 months before I bought it. They wanted too much for it and after waiting for 4 months they finally brought the price of the thing down low enough for one to purchase it. Back to the other info.
I am not sure of what the oil that was in it, however, I did swap out a Pennzoil filter to a Motorcraft when I changed it, so all things being equal I would assume that they might have been using Pennzoil. Currently I am using Royal Purple 15w-40 and will be changing the oil at 7500 miles. I will be getting an analysis after that to really get a baseline analysis.
Thanks for the info guys, I will keep everyone up to date on this and see just what is going on in there down the road.
Ted
I am not sure of what the oil that was in it, however, I did swap out a Pennzoil filter to a Motorcraft when I changed it, so all things being equal I would assume that they might have been using Pennzoil. Currently I am using Royal Purple 15w-40 and will be changing the oil at 7500 miles. I will be getting an analysis after that to really get a baseline analysis.
Thanks for the info guys, I will keep everyone up to date on this and see just what is going on in there down the road.
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And here is the rest of the story:
SAE/ISO Grade 1540
VIS.@100 C. Cst. 13.77
Oil Additives 9
Molybdenum 71
Magnesium 22
Calcium 1863
Barium <1
Phosphorus 1547
Zinc 1686
There I believe that is everything that was left off of the original post.
SAE/ISO Grade 1540
VIS.@100 C. Cst. 13.77
Oil Additives 9
Molybdenum 71
Magnesium 22
Calcium 1863
Barium <1
Phosphorus 1547
Zinc 1686
There I believe that is everything that was left off of the original post.
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