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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Update for the night. Down to just the torque converter bolts. Bell housing bolts are off and bagged. Mounting bolts are in hand for the engine stand. Pulled a whopping four wires off of the engine: ground, water temp sender, oil pressure sender, and the dizzy. I unbolted the coil and moved it to the side to prevent mis wiring it. Got all vacuum lines off, and the bottom nut off of the engine mounts (they need replaced). Of course I removed to plugs and plug wires. I didn't count them because they are not part of my engine wiring harness; they are part of the ignition system.

My only question is what is the best way to get these stubborn toque converter bolts off with no lift and only hand tools?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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You either have to use a 6-point SAE socket or box-end wrench, or a 6-point metric - although I don't remember which one it is. And don't even think about an open-end wrench. Those nuts will spin in a 12-point socket or box-end wrench - been there, done that, and will NOT do it again as I had to weld other nuts to those to get them off after they slipped.

IIRC, my 3/8" drive socket and break-over fit in there, but my 1/2" drive wouldn't fit. So I was able to get my SAE sockets to work. But someone, Jim I think, said that the metric socket is ever so slightly smaller and will fit on and won't spin.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 08:13 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Going to have to pick up a breaker bar at lunch tomorrow as my 3/8 & 1/4 ones vanished over my last deployment.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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Had a nice visit with my mom, who drove down from Missouri. We had a small Ford convention in our driveway when she pulled up in her 02 F250. She likes the beast and my plans for it. Also managed to get the torque converter nuts off. One is ruined. I'll pull it out tomorrow.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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Glad you got them off. They can be real bears. How did you do it?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:04 PM
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Glad you got them off. They can be real bears. How did you do it?
1/2 inch breaker bar an six point socket. The last one I had to chisel out, so I need a new set.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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Surprised you could get 1/2" stuff in there. As said, mine won't fit. Anyway, good deal.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 10:13 PM
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Surprised you could get 1/2" stuff in there. As said, mine won't fit. Anyway, good deal.
Ratchet was a no-go. With the 250's suspension, I could get a standard depth 6-point socket an breaker bar in there. Barely. I used a 3/8 ratchet to speed the nuts off. And a half in chisel and small brass hammer for the stripped nut. Threads looked fine afterward, so I got lucky there.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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Thanks for the advice. Going to have to pick up a breaker bar at lunch tomorrow as my 3/8 & 1/4 ones vanished over my last deployment.
Does the Army not supply your tools? Or are you a contractor?

Or have I misunderstood and you mean your "at home" tools.

Good luck on the project, it sounds good so far!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Does the Army not supply your tools? Or are you a contractor? Or have I misunderstood and you mean your "at home" tools. Good luck on the project, it sounds good so far!
My personal tools. They may have gotten borrowed and lost while I was deployed.
 
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Update for today. Engine is out. And apart. I had one bolt snap in the thermostat housing. Two snapped on passenger side exhaust manifold. And one of the head bolts was cross threaded on the driver side. Right now I have on piston that won't wiggle out and no edge reamer to help. Other than that, a successful day. Going to be a pain to get down to the machine shop with my work schedule this week. Will keep you guys posted.
 
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What are your plans on head bolts? Going back stock? I have extra stock head bolts to replace the cross-threaded one if you need it.

On the t-stat bolt, frequently those actually snap above the block where coolant gets in and corrodes the bolt/housing area. Given that the bolt should come out of the block fairly easily.

The exhaust manifold bolts are going to be another story. And, unfortunately, not a new story for Fords. Drilling it out and using an Eazyout doesn't always work. Good luck!
 
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What are your plans on head bolts? Going back stock? I have extra stock head bolts to replace the cross-threaded one if you need it. On the t-stat bolt, frequently those actually snap above the block where coolant gets in and corrodes the bolt/housing area. Given that the bolt should come out of the block fairly easily. The exhaust manifold bolts are going to be another story. And, unfortunately, not a new story for Fords. Drilling it out and using an Eazyout doesn't always work. Good luck!
I was planning on stock. Let me call Tim and get his advice on it, as he may recommend something else with his kit. As for the exhaust bolt, one is going to be easy. The other is a little recessed. I'm going to have the machine shop handle those. The thermostat housing is threaded, and still stuck to the block.

Any ideas on that last piston?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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Tim will probably recommend ARP, which is the way I'm going. But, if he doesn't then PM me your address and I'll mail you a couple.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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Not cool on the tools, a mans tools are his baby's and should be respected.

For that piston, are you saying the rings are getting caught on the lip on the bore wall?

If so, just get some shim stock and make a sleeve to slide in past the lip and over the rings (use lube as required) then square up the piston and slide it out, the shim will ramp the rings past the lip.

If the rings are heavily carboned up and stuck in their grooves, then you can loosen them up with some Kero or brake cleaner. Loosening the rings may get it out without the shim.
 
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