It's the Little Things
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With the idle too low and brake fluid leaking, you might have found most of your brake problems.
Keep on plug'n away, you'll get it all sorted out.
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OK. So I got in contact with the mechanic. The truck is going back Tuesday.
The leaky rear seal is in fact the one he replaced. He is telling me that its not him messing up the seal, but rather that the axle shaft is worn out and needs replaced. I don't see how it can wear against a soft rubber seal in 80k miles, or why he didn't notice this when replacing it the first time. He has no idea why the third member would be leaking. While it is there the front drivers side axle seal will also be replaced.
The truck seems to be much happier with its new idle setting. Its holding around 800 rpm and has smoothed out a tad.
Would there be any reason to not put a sheet metal screw in the door panel bottom? Ford did this on later model trucks and seems like a good idea along with the plastic clips. In a place that wont be easily seen of course.
The leaky rear seal is in fact the one he replaced. He is telling me that its not him messing up the seal, but rather that the axle shaft is worn out and needs replaced. I don't see how it can wear against a soft rubber seal in 80k miles, or why he didn't notice this when replacing it the first time. He has no idea why the third member would be leaking. While it is there the front drivers side axle seal will also be replaced.
The truck seems to be much happier with its new idle setting. Its holding around 800 rpm and has smoothed out a tad.
Would there be any reason to not put a sheet metal screw in the door panel bottom? Ford did this on later model trucks and seems like a good idea along with the plastic clips. In a place that wont be easily seen of course.
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Have yer Mechanic look into a jiffy or Speedy sleeve. He will know what it is.
If not find another mechanic. For a few pennies it will give ya a new sealing surface.
One hell of a lot less cost than replacing the parts and will last as long or longer.
They can be used on both the axles and pinion. Also for transmission input and output
seals. Any auto parts store has them. Simple easy fix for rusted or worn
sealing surfaces.
If your truck has sat a few years these surfaces rust up. Same as engine
seals. Than when ua go and run it they fail do to the rust eating the old seal.
Put in new seals and they fail because the surface is still rusty. So the
speedy sleeve gives you a new sealing surface and problem solved for cheap.
If not find another mechanic. For a few pennies it will give ya a new sealing surface.
One hell of a lot less cost than replacing the parts and will last as long or longer.
They can be used on both the axles and pinion. Also for transmission input and output
seals. Any auto parts store has them. Simple easy fix for rusted or worn
sealing surfaces.
If your truck has sat a few years these surfaces rust up. Same as engine
seals. Than when ua go and run it they fail do to the rust eating the old seal.
Put in new seals and they fail because the surface is still rusty. So the
speedy sleeve gives you a new sealing surface and problem solved for cheap.
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Post Fiend
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Sorry I can't edit:
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I would make yer mechanic eat it. Weather speedy sleeve or new parts.
The dweeb should have known better and done it right the first time.
Is it a real repair shop? Or a mechanic like buddy that did this?
On Edit:
I would make yer mechanic eat it. Weather speedy sleeve or new parts.
The dweeb should have known better and done it right the first time.
Is it a real repair shop? Or a mechanic like buddy that did this?
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I hadn't clicked the links yet, my bad.
The shop that did the work is a small privately owned shop. He used to work for a collision repair shop here in town and branched off to start his own shop with a few employees. He has always done excellent work for us, until now that is.
I used to go to a tire/repair shop in town but quit after a nearly costly, and stupid mistakes. Like forgetting to put a radiator hose back on.
The shop that did the work is a small privately owned shop. He used to work for a collision repair shop here in town and branched off to start his own shop with a few employees. He has always done excellent work for us, until now that is.
I used to go to a tire/repair shop in town but quit after a nearly costly, and stupid mistakes. Like forgetting to put a radiator hose back on.
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Yer mechanic sounds okay. Just didn't really see or know or understand what the rusty surface can do.
Still at least have him eat the labor for installing the speedy sleeves. I would. And prolly make him buy them as well.
I ate a lot of this kind of thing when I was in business. Well not a lot but I did when it came up. It's good
public relations and brings folks, and the folks they tell coming back. It wont cost him much and what he gets
back in folks ya send his way should be worth it to him.
He is the one that first missed it right?
Still at least have him eat the labor for installing the speedy sleeves. I would. And prolly make him buy them as well.
I ate a lot of this kind of thing when I was in business. Well not a lot but I did when it came up. It's good
public relations and brings folks, and the folks they tell coming back. It wont cost him much and what he gets
back in folks ya send his way should be worth it to him.
He is the one that first missed it right?
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I don't plan on paying for any mistakes he made. If it is something that was already a problem(like the front axle seal) I am happy to pay the usual rate.
I have sent a lot of business his way(he is actually needing to get a bigger shop and more employees) and his work has always been great. He painted the bedside of my fathers 09 f150 and it looked flawless. Hopefully this is a one time mistake that will be fixed.
I have sent a lot of business his way(he is actually needing to get a bigger shop and more employees) and his work has always been great. He painted the bedside of my fathers 09 f150 and it looked flawless. Hopefully this is a one time mistake that will be fixed.
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I don't plan on paying for any mistakes he made. If it is something that was already a problem(like the front axle seal) I am happy to pay the usual rate.
I have sent a lot of business his way(he is actually needing to get a bigger shop and more employees) and his work has always been great. He painted the bedside of my fathers 09 f150 and it looked flawless. Hopefully this is a one time mistake that will be fixed.
I have sent a lot of business his way(he is actually needing to get a bigger shop and more employees) and his work has always been great. He painted the bedside of my fathers 09 f150 and it looked flawless. Hopefully this is a one time mistake that will be fixed.
All shops mess up from time to time. It just happens. It's what we do
When it happens that separate the men's room from the boys.
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Okay so the mechanic got in touch with me today. He said that the axle shaft is worn and causing the leak. He is familiar with speedy sleeve type products and is okay with doing one. But he also mentioned that the axle splines are showing quite a bit of wear. RockAuto has axle shafts for $68 so ill just do the entire haft. Might as well do a proper job now and save myself trouble later, right?
Now, the question remains if I should order one for the other side or not?
Im also having the front axle seal and pinion seal replaced while its there and leaking. Some wiring quirks with brake and turn signals will be mended as well.
Now, the question remains if I should order one for the other side or not?
Im also having the front axle seal and pinion seal replaced while its there and leaking. Some wiring quirks with brake and turn signals will be mended as well.