1957 - 1960 F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Box Style Ford Trucks

What IF?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-13-2014, 07:27 PM
GB SISSON's Avatar
GB SISSON
GB SISSON is offline
Lead Driver
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Orcas Island Wa.
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 0
Received 90 Likes on 47 Posts
What IF?

Ok, I have 2 old toyota landcruiser station wagons. One was my family car for EVERYTHING for almost 20 years (4 kids, little league etc etc).. The other is a 5 speed diesel 4 cylinder from Canada, never available in the US. They are both rust buckets, but they both start, run and stop just fine. I measured up my '59 panel and the width outside the tires is 68" on all three vehicles. The toyotas are 108" wheelbase and the panel is 110". The toyota spring mounts are riveted to the frame and there's plenty of room to the sweep up for moving the springs back 2". Another 10.00 piece of brake tubing and lengthening the driveshaft and we are good. Both toyotas have PS and PB as well as dual master cylinders. The third members and brakes (discs up front) are the equivelent size of 3/4 ton us stuff. So there you have it, a 4wd modernized, correct width panel truck. Not rushing into it as I am about 1/2 way through a '47 2 ton this winter. But.... I'm planning on there being another winter, needing anothger winter project. Just sayin......
 
Attached Images    
  #2  
Old 02-13-2014, 08:07 PM
Choptopjimmy's Avatar
Choptopjimmy
Choptopjimmy is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SW Michigan
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Sounds like a plan.
 
  #3  
Old 02-13-2014, 09:49 PM
Danleig's Avatar
Danleig
Danleig is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Simi Valley, CA.
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Doesn't sound too much more difficult than a CV front end swap, just fab up new body mounts. I like it!
 
  #4  
Old 02-16-2014, 10:34 PM
theodore/teddy's Avatar
theodore/teddy
theodore/teddy is offline
Refyred
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Southern Nevada
Posts: 2,083
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 6 Posts
Hell Gary most of us just use the Toyota steering gearbox! I'm a Toyota fan and I have looked at this type of swap also, so I say go for it. I know you can make it happen.
 
  #5  
Old 02-17-2014, 02:50 PM
GB SISSON's Avatar
GB SISSON
GB SISSON is offline
Lead Driver
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Orcas Island Wa.
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 0
Received 90 Likes on 47 Posts
Yeah, the toyota landcruiser thing has been around almost as long as my ford thing. It would look just like the 4x4 panel here, but with six lugs, Oh and Taller tires, like 255 85 16s or 33 9.50 15s, like the truck at the beach. The wagon in the first pic is the one that got the camo job 15 yeras later. Those wagons were a rust bucket looking for a place to rust....One of those two wagons will be a '40 ford woody, if I live long enough. OK, back to the cabinet shop.
 
Attached Images    
  #6  
Old 02-17-2014, 11:17 PM
Rusty_Old_F250's Avatar
Rusty_Old_F250
Rusty_Old_F250 is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 1,771
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Good old Toyota, they sure build a solid drivetrain, but you've got to wonder what they were thinking with the bodies, they practically vaporize.

A 4x4 fridge panel has a pretty serious cool factor to it, I say go for! But since you've already got the FrankenFridge, we'll have to call this one the YotaFridge.

EDIT: That stretch of beach looks really familiar, can't quite place it though... The pickup looks nice too, I can't imagine there's many of those around!

Sam
 
  #7  
Old 02-17-2014, 11:35 PM
GB SISSON's Avatar
GB SISSON
GB SISSON is offline
Lead Driver
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Orcas Island Wa.
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 0
Received 90 Likes on 47 Posts
Beach is on San Juan Island, just west of Orcas Island. County seat is there, Friday Harbor. Those are actually two different Landcruiser pickups. The one being towed I had finally got from the original owner here on Orcas back in about '95. When I got divorced all my kids wanted to live with me and I wanted to raise them in their home I built for the family years before. Trouble was I had to sell my two pickups to add to the cash needed to buy out my ex wife. The other one I sold was my beloved '38 ford tonner. Well a couple years later, and back on my feet, I bought another fixer toyota pickup from Arizona. That's the one in the beach picture, with my new bride in the shotgun seat. And obviously I've since replaced the tonner with the '59 version of the tonner pickup, and a couple other fords.... Life is good!
 
  #8  
Old 02-19-2014, 06:26 PM
D57's Avatar
D57
D57 is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Frame swapping ain't as easy as it looks. I'm well into the 2nd year of my 57 onto s10 4x4 project. Measure and measure again! Things like inner fenderwells can surprise you. Most newer frames have very few straight sections - unlike the fridges which are pretty straight. You might look into swapping floors. That way you save an awful lot of time fabricating body mounts, ect. It sounds like it would be more work - unless your panel has the dreaded front body mount rot! I even saw a build thread where a guy swapped the firewall as well!
 
  #9  
Old 02-19-2014, 09:25 PM
Rusty_Old_F250's Avatar
Rusty_Old_F250
Rusty_Old_F250 is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Western Washington
Posts: 1,771
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Looks good GB, I've never been to Friday Harbor, so I guess I'm thinking of a different beach. But I have been to Orcas with the family, probably drove past your house.

It's a shame you had to sell the 38, but it was for a good cause.

Sam
 
  #10  
Old 02-19-2014, 11:45 PM
GB SISSON's Avatar
GB SISSON
GB SISSON is offline
Lead Driver
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Orcas Island Wa.
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 0
Received 90 Likes on 47 Posts
Thanks guys. This build is one for the future like maybe next winter before I even start. Right now I'm up to my whatever with my '47 2 ton stakebed project. Well, it will be a stakebed when I mount my 59's old script bed on it come spring. In the last couple years I have built a flatbed for my '92 f350, and my toyota t100. Then I took the flatbed off my '59 and put on a pickup box. I can't seem to be happy leaving things how they were. But doing that wouldn't be a hobby for me....
 
  #11  
Old 02-20-2014, 08:59 PM
thundersnow70's Avatar
thundersnow70
thundersnow70 is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: May 2010
Location: south east South Dakota
Posts: 1,265
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 9 Posts
Hey GB, I cant remember what your question was or what I was gonna say after I seen the pictures of the TWO FJ45s. If you ever want to sell it or find another one please, please let me know. O yea, go for the swap next winter!
 
  #12  
Old 02-26-2014, 10:28 AM
real550A's Avatar
real550A
real550A is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: E. Central, Mn.
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That body swap seems a natural, I like your vision. When I have done these, we just lower body slowly over the frame until something touches, then support with hardwood shims and wedges. That gives you time to step back, assess options, and design new mounts. I love the 4x4 Toyota running gears, and that will be a bad-*** panel! Go for it!
 
  #13  
Old 02-26-2014, 06:20 PM
spurredon's Avatar
spurredon
spurredon is offline
Fleet Owner

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 25,249
Received 606 Likes on 544 Posts
Originally Posted by real550A
That body swap seems a natural, I like your vision. When I have done these, we just lower body slowly over the frame until something touches, then support with hardwood shims and wedges. That gives you time to step back, assess options, and design new mounts. I love the 4x4 Toyota running gears, and that will be a bad-*** panel! Go for it!

I am lowering the body on my plow truck in that way as we speak. Rust will really make the front of the cab take a nose dive! LOL
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Powerhour
1947 and Older Ford Trucks
3
09-28-2015 01:40 PM
Grandadeo
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
12
02-08-2011 03:05 PM
dave boley
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
12-21-2008 06:38 PM
krautwolf
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
10-17-2004 01:59 PM
ZZMAXX25
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
13
06-03-2003 02:16 AM



Quick Reply: What IF?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:37 PM.