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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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E4OD issues help needed

Ok so heres my first post to this forum. My truck is a 95 manufacture date 6/95 if its needed 2 wheel drive f350 with the 7.3. lately ive been having some issues with the transmission stalling when it comes to a stop and not going anywhere in drive when at a stop it will drive as long as you take off in 2nd. so i decided to do a good flush on it drained the tconverter flushed lines changed pan and filter to a deep pan. after doing this the truck very rarely wants to stall at a stop but still requires to be put in second to take off. so i hooked up my launch maximus through matco and found that while driving my tconverter lockup solenoid never actuates even when in 4th at 70+ mph as well as my coast clutch solenoid only actuates when slowing down if i turn od off all other solenoids seem to be turning on and off in the right sequence per gear. i have already fixed connecter at mlps so i doubt thats the issue. plus the tranny shifts great so should i try putting a new solenoid pack in it and what is causing my truck to not take off in drive is it a sticky ball or valve.

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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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Your low roller clutch has failed. That's a one way clutch that is now a two way clutch. The only way to fix this is to remove the trans, tear it down, and replace the low roller.

Your torque converter clutch solenoid never activating is an unrelated problem. What you have described for the coast clutch solenoid is how it is supposed to work.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Your low roller clutch has failed. That's a one way clutch that is now a two way clutch. The only way to fix this is to remove the trans, tear it down, and replace the low roller.

Your torque converter clutch solenoid never activating is an unrelated problem. What you have described for the coast clutch solenoid is how it is supposed to work.
so the low roller clutch being bad is whats causing drive to not function correctly will this hurt anything else in the transmission if i continue to take off in second and then switch to drive like i have been doing also what do you think is causing the torque converter to not lock, and i was under the impression that the coast clutch solenoid should automatically activate when coming to a stop from high speed mine does not actuate under any normal circumstance unless i force it to.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 08:14 PM
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It won't hurt anything else. You can drive it like this.

I don't know what's causing the torque converter clutch solenoid to not activate. It could be many things, from a bad third brake light to a defective solenoid.

You are mistaken about the coast clutch solenoid. It is working as designed.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
It won't hurt anything else. You can drive it like this.

I don't know what's causing the torque converter clutch solenoid to not activate. It could be many things, from a bad third brake light to a defective solenoid.

You are mistaken about the coast clutch solenoid. It is working as designed.
thanks again for the replies mark and i did the torque converter lockup mod with the safety relay and resistor to backfeed to the pcm that nothing is wrong so no dtcs are shot. the mod works exactly as expected and i can now manually lock the t converter so im confident its still in working condition

would you mind explaining when the coast clutch solenoid should and should not be active because now the solenoid stays active from stop till roughly 40 mph or so.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 09:42 AM
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The solenoid should be on when the OD is turned off. It should not be on when the OD OFF light is not illuminated.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 09:50 AM
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The solenoid should be on when the OD is turned off. It should not be on when the OD OFF light is not illuminated.
right now when its hooked up to my scanner it shows clutch coast solenoid is on when in any gear r,d,2,or 1 until i get up to roughly 40 mph i also notice slipping until i get to this speed and solenoid shows off what can cause the solenoid to not be acting correctly. on my scanner i can read transmission range and the pcm knows its in od. what should my next test be.


sorry for all the questions im not very experienced with the inner workings of automatic transmissions
 
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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That doesn't make any sense. I do not know why the coast clutch solenoid would be on.
All the coast clutch can do in that case is back up the overdrive one way clutch. The one way will still hold most of the torque. If it is slipping then it's toast.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
That doesn't make any sense. I do not know why the coast clutch solenoid would be on.
All the coast clutch can do in that case is back up the overdrive one way clutch. The one way will still hold most of the torque. If it is slipping then it's toast.
i just find it strange that the transmission was not slipping until that solenoid decided to turn on id rove it for roughly 40 miles freeway and stop and go no issues until i shut the truck off turned and turned it back on then it started slipping when i tried to engage it and while in gear scanned it and noticed the solenoid on and also that the slip goes away when solenoid turns off. is it possible that the solenoid pack is bad and is putting pressures to the wrong places.

im also going to rescan the truck here in a min to see if its still on and do you know of a way to disable the coast clutch solenoid just for diagnostic purposes.
 
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You can unplug the solenoid with the pan off, or you could remove the wire from the transmission connector.
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
You can unplug the solenoid with the pan off, or you could remove the wire from the transmission connector.
do you know what color the wire is in the harness
 
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I do not know the wire color.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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I do not know the wire color.
Mark if i go to rebuild this transmission what all parts do i need to buy and do you have a recommended rebuild kit to use.
 
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You need a master rebuild kit, plus whatever hard parts may be damaged.

I've used kits from Transtar.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
You need a master rebuild kit, plus whatever hard parts may be damaged.

I've used kits from Transtar.
is there anything in specific that i should upgrade while im in there like any servos or anything that changed or upgraded in the later years of the e40d
 
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