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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 08:39 AM
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Excursion Purchase Advice

I've been looking at excursions for a few months. My choices seem to be 250,000 miles for $12k-$13k or <150,000 for $16k-$20k. I know the 7.3 is a great engine and can go a long time, but my worry is eveything else. For example, I had a 7.3l f350 dually where the furl pump went out just after I sold it at 227,000 miles. It also had several nagging repairs during the time I had it (about 2 years). Full disclosure, it wasn't well taken care of and was kindof ratty when I got it. The question is: Do you guys think it's better to save the money on the purchase and may have to deal with various repairs or spend more and potentially not have to deal with as many repairs.

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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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In my opinion, you'd be hard pressed to find any vehicle 10-15 years old with over 150,000 miles that doesn't have little issues and general maintenance items like sensors, fuel pumps, alternators, water pumps, etc.

I think you should keep an open mind on price/mileage. Just be patient and look for one you like, make sure it's been well maintaned and documented and go from there. You could easily find a higher mileage 7.3L with less nagging issues then a lower mileage truck. The failure periods on parts on these trucks just seem to vary so much.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by t.scottNDU
In my opinion, you'd be hard pressed to find any vehicle 10-15 years old with over 150,000 miles that doesn't have little issues and general maintenance items like sensors, fuel pumps, alternators, water pumps, etc.

I think you should keep an open mind on price/mileage. Just be patient and look for one you like, make sure it's been well maintaned and documented and go from there. You could easily find a higher mileage 7.3L with less nagging issues then a lower mileage truck. The failure periods on parts on these trucks just seem to vary so much.
That sounds like good advice and it's kindof the way I was leaning. I haven't been able to put together a pattern of typical failures either, but I didn't know if I was missing something.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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Low mileage, in and of itself, does not preclude you from major repairs. Some pull the dash cluster, drive the heck out of it, and then put the old cluster back in for a sale. I would plan on any number of routine items like belts, hoses, water pump, t-stat, drive train stuff and so on. I keep records of everything that has been replaced and with any luck, the one you find may have similar records or talk to the previous owner and get a history. Don't forget to get under the truck and see what stage of cancer it has "rust". If you get one with a badly rusted oil pan you could be in for a major repair bill. There are links for buying a truck at the top of the forum. Follow these guidelines and don't fall for a truck based on sight alone until you thoroughly go over it first and then decide if you like it or not. JMHO
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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have lots of patients, I found mine a couple yeas ago, 2000 7.3 4X4 148,000 miles owned and driven by an older lady, the rear doors had never been open, 3rd row seat never sat on center row seat used a couple times and front passenger seat had probably less than 5,000 miles of someone sitting on it, only maintained by Ford. had 2 new batteries the week before I bought it and front brakes 2 weeks before I bought it.
I spent about 3 years searching and watching
I paid $9,500 for it
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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Check out this 7.3L truck buyer write up Mike did in the tech section:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...questions.html

It took me about 3 years to find one that I was willing to take on. It had it's share of problems but I knew it before purchasing. Auto Enginuity , a flashlight and a set of mechanic overalls were extremely helpful while a crawled around potential vehicles.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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double post - oops
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by white Buffalo
Check out this 7.3L truck buyer write up Mike did in the tech section:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...questions.html

It took me about 3 years to find one that I was willing to take on. It had it's share of problems but I knew it before purchasing. Auto Enginuity , a flashlight and a set of mechanic overalls were extremely helpful while a crawled around potential vehicles.
Thanks. I used that thread and others when I purchased my '00 F350. I do all my own vehicle maintenance and am no stranger to crawling under a truck. I was just looking to find out if there is any direct correlation between miles and many failures. It looks like there isn't. As with any vehicle, maintenance is key.

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have lots of patients
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:P Sorry, I couldn't resist. Sounds like you got an incredible deal on that Excursion. I'm very jealous.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 09:37 PM
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Well as far as Excursions go it seems to be harder lately to find ones with the captains chairs instead of the bench in the middle row. Also, give close attention to the suspension , even though they are similar to a Super Duty they do handle quite different . Many Excursion owners change out or modify the springs cuz sometimes they just wallow and can't hold a straight line in the wind.

The bonus is the 48 gallon fuel tank and enough room to haul a small circus......best of luck - you'll find one.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by white Buffalo
Well as far as Excursions go it seems to be harder lately to find ones with the captains chairs instead of the bench in the middle row. Also, give close attention to the suspension , even though they are similar to a Super Duty they do handle quite different . Many Excursion owners change out or modify the springs cuz sometimes they just wallow and can't hold a straight line in the wind.

The bonus is the 48 gallon fuel tank and enough room to haul a small circus......best of luck - you'll find one.
Thanks for the Excursion specific info. I was interested in looking at swapping in coil suspension from a later truck into the 7.3 truck. I'm haven't really looked into it at all, though. My plan is to use it for double duty as the anti-mini van for kids and also for truck duties. I'm not sure how many kids we'll have, but my sister has 4. I think her family qualifies as a circus. haha
 
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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Well you need to talk with Cary from CT Performance then! He's installing a 2010 Superduty coil spring suspension on his Excursion. Wish I could find the pic......

CT Performance website
 
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Old Feb 7, 2014 | 08:41 AM
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they get good mpg and ride better than the trucks, i would look at the buys guide at the top of the page and it will be very close to an EX.

as for the prices i just bought 1 for my mother 2000 limited 7.3 2wd 230k for $5000, it need about $250 in fixes but it is in great shape.
i just mised getting a 2000 4x4 7.3 265k for $6500.

so 12000 is way high to me, keep looking you will be able to find 1 cheaper.
they come up for sell down here every couple of months
 
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 07:53 AM
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Lightbulb Miles vs Maintenance

Overall condition, evidence of maintenance, and general upkeep is more important than the number of miles on the clock.

I have seen diesel Excursions with >200,000+ miles that would be less troublesome than ones with < 100,000 miles. Low mileage = non use and can be as bad as abuse. 50,000 miles in the salt in MI is worse than 250,000 highway miles in AZ.

I have only owned my Ex since June '12 with 233K miles and I continually get comments about how clean it is. Yes, I have done a lot to keep it that way and even more to make it a better truck, but I had a fine piece to start with, the engine bay and undercarriage were so clean. I have seen vehicles with 50,000 miles that weren't as clean.

Like helifixer wrote "patience."

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Check out the Excursion forum for more ideas.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 06:18 PM
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I appreciate all the comments and advice above. I'll be sure to post up when I pick one up.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 06:40 AM
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Is this a factory color? I feel like I've seen it before, but I can't remember. I know I've seen a maroon color, but I thought it was more red. Where there two maroons?

 
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