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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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IIRC, Blackstone UOAs were only $20 or $25. Been a while, though. Whether it's $20 or $35, you're spending it to tell you not about your $50 oil change, but about your $3000 engine.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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Who knows why the ICP dropped? Was it definitely oil related or one of 100 other possibilities? I dunno, my oil stays clean until about 6k.
Byron, I've put A LOT of miles on this engine with the setup that I'm running on it. I can tell you this... My HPOP is not big enough for my injectors. If it were, then it wouldn't drop ICP at all. It is because of this though that I can notice when the oil is thicker or thinner. For example, when the oil is at 100*, it will hold 2900-3000psi ICP, but with the oil at 200*, I can only hold ~2700psi . Why is that? Easy.. The oil thins out as it gets hotter.

As the oil gets used more and more, it also becomes thinner. 3000 mile oil in my truck @ normal temp of ~190* will only hold ~2300psi ICP. Change the oil, get it up to temp and it will hold 2600-2700psi. 3000 miles later, I can only hold 2300psi again. I've done this time and time again and I can even feel the difference in power after changing my oil.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue
IIRC, Blackstone UOAs were only $20 or $25. Been a while, though. Whether it's $20 or $35, you're spending it to tell you not about your $50 oil change, but about your $3000 engine.
+1...

T6 is about $22-$23/gal after tax (x4)
Motorcraft filter is ~$10
UOA at Blackstone $25 (Priceless)

So an oil change costs me about $125 but I only change it every 18 or so months so it's not bad.

Richard
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by madpogue
IIRC, Blackstone UOAs were only $20 or $25. Been a while, though. Whether it's $20 or $35, you're spending it to tell you not about your $50 oil change, but about your $3000 engine.
My last one was $35 -ish from what I recall 3 or 4 years ago, was $28 or something when I started using Blackstone. Not sure what they are now.

I like to protect my $3000 engine with a $50 oil change, not with a $35 oil analysis.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 06:28 PM
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Does a UOA tell you how dirty your oil is ?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
Byron, I've put A LOT of miles on this engine with the setup that I'm running on it. I can tell you this... My HPOP is not big enough for my injectors. If it were, then it wouldn't drop ICP at all. It is because of this though that I can notice when the oil is thicker or thinner. For example, when the oil is at 100*, it will hold 2900-3000psi ICP, but with the oil at 200*, I can only hold ~2700psi . Why is that? Easy.. The oil thins out as it gets hotter.

As the oil gets used more and more, it also becomes thinner. 3000 mile oil in my truck @ normal temp of ~190* will only hold ~2300psi ICP. Change the oil, get it up to temp and it will hold 2600-2700psi. 3000 miles later, I can only hold 2300psi again. I've done this time and time again and I can even feel the difference in power after changing my oil.
Good deal Travis. That is real world info and I can get behind that. I guess I should have been more clear in saying that I can not get behind the "my truck runs so much better after an oil change" mentality. I went from 15w-40 to 10w-30 Rotella this last change and I definitely noticed a better idle and got a little bit better mpg. I am also all stock and you are not, so that might lend to the loss in power difference. My truck has run no better or worse after a 6k mile run using 15w-40 before I went with a 10w-30 run. Again, show me numbers and not "feel goodie" and I can get on board. I'll be going back to 15w-40 Rotella when I change it this weekend. I have 6500 miles on this run and have noticed no difference in driveability, but I do not have and sort of gauge giving me numbers. It might be suffering a little but have no way of knowing. It "feels" the same though.

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Does a UOA tell you how dirty your oil is ?
It will tell you fuel, TBN, and soot levels. That is pretty much the cleanliness and usability of your oil in a diesel.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DZL JIM
I like to protect my $3000 engine with a $50 oil change, not with a $35 oil analysis.
An oil change isn't information. A UOA will detect traces of coolant or fuel that you'd never find by any other means, but which, left unattended, could be costly. Not to say that a UOA is worthwhile with every oil change, but a baseline and an occasional re-test can tell you of things that can't be "fixed" with an oil change.
 
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