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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 09:04 PM
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Powerstroke upgrade

I have searched and searched and searched and come to one conclusion, there are a lot of retards with no real experience only speaking from heresay to add to their post count! Ok here it goes. I have found a lot of good information, but I want to verify my knowledge before I start.

I have a 1992 ford f350 idi 5spd 4x4 in great shape except the engine has a lot of blow by, uses a gallon of oil every 80 miles and only gets about 15mpg. Filler up with oil and check the fuel, I hate this s***!

I have a 1996 f250 powerstroke e4od 1.10 a/r turbo that has just had injectors, hoop, filter housing, fuel pimp, glop lugs, calve cover gaskets, oil cooler o-rings, cps, fpr, ebps, a lot of crap! But the truck is worn out with 400k miles nod smashed up the side and sold the flatbed to a friend, just not worth fixing, but engine has has $3000 in parts since it hit 388k. Really does run like a hot rod with 10k resistor!

So as most of you competent individuals can predict I want to put the psd in the 92 truck, but what has to happen?

I understand that the engine all the under hood wiring, all the obd wiring behind the dash and the throttle peddle have to be swapped, but will my fuel lines work? I can reuse the diesel tanks? I can use either radiator? Which one is best? What about all the other things? What am I missing? I wanted to do a 12 valve cummins but this psd starts when it's 32 out with being plugged up and I know what I got here! Plus I already got it and I just think the v8 psd has more ***** than the i6 cummins.

I want to put my stout motor with my stout truck! Please only chime in if you have true experience I have read all 20 pages of powerstroke upgrade and I have spent literally hours looking into this, but I can only afford minimal downtime as this is my primary mode of transportation.

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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Calf_roper_John
I have searched and searched and searched and come to one conclusion, there are a lot of retards with no real experience only speaking from heresay to add to their post count! Ok here it goes. I have found a lot of good information, but I want to verify my knowledge before I start.

I have a 1992 ford f350 idi 5spd 4x4 in great shape except the engine has a lot of blow by, uses a gallon of oil every 80 miles and only gets about 15mpg. Filler up with oil and check the fuel, I hate this s***!

I have a 1996 f250 powerstroke e4od 1.10 a/r turbo that has just had injectors, hoop, filter housing, fuel pimp, glop lugs, calve cover gaskets, oil cooler o-rings, cps, fpr, ebps, a lot of crap! But the truck is worn out with 400k miles nod smashed up the side and sold the flatbed to a friend, just not worth fixing, but engine has has $3000 in parts since it hit 388k. Really does run like a hot rod with 10k resistor!

So as most of you competent individuals can predict I want to put the psd in the 92 truck, but what has to happen?

I understand that the engine all the under hood wiring, all the obd wiring behind the dash and the throttle peddle have to be swapped, but will my fuel lines work? I can reuse the diesel tanks? I can use either radiator? Which one is best? What about all the other things? ...

Calf roper

You will need the WHOLE truck harness from the powerstoke

You will also need the fuel lines from the selector forward(might as well change them all)

You can reuse the diesel tanks(but will want the stainless PSD sending units)

Either radiator will work, but you will need late 94 hoses if you want to retain your IDI radiator(passenger top hose, driver lower). I would use EVERYTHING from the power stoke, that way when you need parts, you just tell them it is a 96 and all the parts will be right. Not a mix and match of both
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
You will need the WHOLE truck harness from the powerstoke

You will also need the fuel lines from the selector forward(might as well change them all)

You can reuse the diesel tanks(but will want the stainless PSD sending units)

Either radiator will work, but you will need late 94 hoses if you want to retain your IDI radiator(passenger top hose, driver lower). I would use EVERYTHING from the power stoke, that way when you need parts, you just tell them it is a 96 and all the parts will be right. Not a mix and match of both
So I'll just have to buy fluids? The psd is a x cab long bed and the idi is a regular bac long bed.. I reckon the wiring will need tied up
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 08:19 PM
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So I'll just have to buy fluids? The psd is a x cab long bed and the idi is a regular bac long bed.. I reckon the wiring will need tied up
Or shorten the harness the 22"

What trans did you plan on running?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
Or shorten the harness the 22"

What trans did you plan on running?
The psd truck has e4od but the idi truck has the ?zf5? Bulldog 5spd od. I like the jasper e4od, but the f350 is 4x4 and the 5spd to auto conversion seems more trouble than it is worth. The flywheel and single clutch I just got will be good for the psd? Also Truck just had 500 on the ac but it looks like I have to use the psd ac compressor?
 

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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 07:15 AM
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5 speed trans will work, but you would need a PSD flywheel and clutch

Also need a manual transmission PCM as well, or have your reburied for the manual
 
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
5 speed trans will work, but you would need a PSD flywheel and clutch

Also need a manual transmission PCM as well, or have your reburied for the manual
The auto PCM won't work at all!? Who burns them? The PCM is the IDM? I can just use the pad flywheel and my disc and pressure plate?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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The auto PCM won't work at all!? Who burns them? The PCM is the IDM? I can just use the pad flywheel and my disc and pressure plate?
PCM is the PCM.

IDM is the IDM

DP tuner used to burn the PCMs, not sure if he still does

PSD flywheel is different bolt pattern than the IDI. Also with the mods that are done with the PSD, you want a performance clutch
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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Ok so I've got some funds and looking at all my options... I have found some dt444 engines for $1100 here local, and to my understanding a lot of my parts will interchange, would this be a easier swap??
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 06:04 PM
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No? The T444E is a 7.3 powerstroke. There are no differences worth mentioning.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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Ok so I've got some funds and looking at all my options... I have found some dt444 engines for $1100 here local, and to my understanding a lot of my parts will interchange, would this be a easier swap??
Same engine, but you need the COMPLETE harness from a power stroke FORD Pickup
 
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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Still?? These engines have the computer on the valve cover.. So, would that make it any easier?

I don't know what I am doing yet, I just hope I get it done before I starve my current engine of oil and get stranded. It was knocking the other day when I jumped off the interstate but quit after it ran a little with some oil in it. Lol.

That's the only reason . I got a great engine, just kinda looking for easy and if I drop a grand might as well make it 2 and have a straight 6 cummins. Love the truck but the idi has always left more to be desired.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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IIRC the IDM is on the valve cover and the ECM is inside the cab.

Then you are left trying to mate your truck harness to the engine harness. A COMPLETE truck harness will be all plug and play
 
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
IIRC the IDM is on the valve cover and the ECM is inside the cab.

Then you are left trying to mate your truck harness to the engine harness. A COMPLETE truck harness will be all plug and play
This seems more complicated than just using my smashed powerstroke truck as a donor. Ok I just have a lot of questions. Can't afford to have the truck down for long.

To my understanding I need the flywheel and a performance clutch is recommended. Can I run the auto ECM without having it flashes?? I found some but I am looking at a little more than $1000 for everything.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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The auto EEC will run the engine, but it might do weird things once it realizes there is no transmission attached. For example, it may stall when you push the clutch in while slowing down, or other such odd behavior. On the other hand, it might be just fine save for the CEL.
 
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