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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 03:55 PM
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Does anyone have this for a 1990 F-450?

I had one for the 99+ but can't find one for these trucks.

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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 04:13 PM
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Some good info from Steve83: 1983 Ford Bronco Diagrams picture | SuperMotors.net
 
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 12:38 AM
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Thanks. I found that and it is good as far as it goes but doesn't have what I need.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301081603489?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
looking at the picture of the body tag, what makes this a F450 other than maybe GVW?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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The front and rear axles are different from a F250/F350. Front is a solid axle with leaf springs. I believe the rear axle is a Dana 80 (F250/350 uses a Sterling 10.25").

I am not sure about the frame itself. It may be unique as well.

Looks a little suspect to me, the fender emblems say F350 but everything else is definitely F450 including the VIN. Probably means the front clip may have been replaced at some point in time.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 10:53 AM
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the "F47" in the 5th,6th&7th position of the VIN (along with the 10 bolt wheels) shows it's a F-super duty (f450 equivalent) truck.
the axle code of 73 also only came with the f450 trucks.this is 5.13 gearing.rla is correct with the rear axle bing a dana 80.

here is a little bit i put together for my garage,briefly explaining the truck:
The F-Super Duty 1987-97 (the original super duty prior to '99 pickups) was introduced to bridge the gap from the F350 to medium duty trucks.It was a commercial cab & chassis 2WD dually only optioned truck.Known at the time as the "One Ton Plus."
It sports a HD frame,the hydroboost brake system w/ 4 wheel disc brakes.Though they are 2WD trucks,they are equipped with 4WD transmissions but,rather than a transfer case,they come with a drive line emergency/parking brake. A HD dana 80 rear axle that came from ford with gear ratio options intended for two purposes; heavy hauling & towing.They came in various wheelbase lengths with up to a 15,000 LB GVWR.It's widely known as the F-450 equivalent with many auto stores listing parts under either name.These trucks are easy to spot with their pickup size cabs,yet unique F-Super Duty fender emblems & 10 lug wheels.


the 8th digit in the vin denotes the 7.3l idi diesel (non turbo.)
i just so happen to have written a description of this too.

The Navistar International IDI was the longest produced diesel engine offered in the Ford F-series trucks (1983-1994.) With the Navistar IDI still holding this record today, which consists of three generations and a total of eleven straight years.The 6.9l and the 7.3l Navistar diesel engine became known as one of the most reliable and sought after diesels.Despite its modest power by modern standards,many enthusiasts still claim it was,and currently still is, Fords best era of diesel equipped trucks for reliability, affordability and a common favorite: simplicity.Since it has no on board pcm nor emissions.with many reports of well over 300,000 miles and counting.


don't touch this one if you don't need it.she wont get the economy the f250/350 will.
if it's what your after,being a rust free 2wd Florida truck with low miles and his parts replacement list,it could be a decent buy.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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…...The Navistar International IDI was the longest produced diesel engine offered in the Ford F-series trucks (1983-1994.) With the Navistar IDI still holding this record today, which consists of three generations and a total of eleven straight years…..
I would not go that far.

There were significant changes made in 88 when they stopped the 6.9 and went to the 7.3(very similar engines, yet different) Saying there are the same would be like saying a 302 is the same as a351
 
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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I would not go that far.

There were significant changes made in 88 when they stopped the 6.9 and went to the 7.3(very similar engines, yet different) Saying there are the same would be like saying a 302 is the same as a351
actually it would be more like comparing a 351M to a 400 or 429 to a 460.
the engines are the same like those comparisons just with a few upgrades is all.
the optional turbo engines of '93&94 probably have more differences between them than the 6.9 to 7.3l n/a's.yet still those are the "same" engines.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 09:23 PM
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Well if you want to know all about your truck based off the Vin. Here is what I got when I message ford about a build sheet.

Basic Build Sheet will detail your vehicle's "as built" options:
*
- Model year
- Manufacturing plant name and location
- Body style
- Build date
- Engine size
- Consecutive unit serial number
- Transmission description
- Rear axle ratio and description (locking or non-locking)
- Tire size
- Exterior paint color and code
- Interior trim color and code
- Interior options
- Any other option information available
*
The Deluxe Build Sheet will include all available production figures in addition to the Basic Build Sheet information. Each build sheet is drafted on Ford stationery that is signed by Ms. Elena Ford -- a great addition to any car enthusiast's collection.

Build Sheets can be ordered online at the Shop Ford Gear website or to our supplier HELM at:
*
Shop Ford Gear web site:
www.shopfordgear.com

HELM customer Support:
1-877-782-4356
 
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
actually it would be more like comparing a 351M to a 400 or 429 to a 460.
the engines are the same like those comparisons just with a few upgrades is all.
the optional turbo engines of '93&94 probably have more differences between them than the 6.9 to 7.3l n/a's.yet still those are the "same" engines.
Yet not the same. Different head bolts, different heads, different blocks, Pistons, etc

As for comparing them to the 315/400 and 429/460. They are different too, but with the Only difference being a 1/2" stoke between them, they are a hell of a lot closer than the IDI engines
 
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Old Jan 29, 2014 | 10:35 PM
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splitting hairs Brad.your splitting hairs.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
the "F47" in the 5th,6th&7th position of the VIN (along with the 10 bolt wheels) shows it's a F-super duty (f450 equivalent) truck.
the axle code of 73 also only came with the f450 trucks.this is 5.13 gearing.rla is correct with the rear axle bing a dana 80.

here is a little bit i put together for my garage,briefly explaining the truck:
The F-Super Duty 1987-97 (the original super duty prior to '99 pickups) was introduced to bridge the gap from the F350 to medium duty trucks.It was a commercial cab & chassis 2WD dually only optioned truck.Known at the time as the "One Ton Plus."
It sports a HD frame,the hydroboost brake system w/ 4 wheel disc brakes.Though they are 2WD trucks,they are equipped with 4WD transmissions but,rather than a transfer case,they come with a drive line emergency/parking brake. A HD dana 80 rear axle that came from ford with gear ratio options intended for two purposes; heavy hauling & towing.They came in various wheelbase lengths with up to a 15,000 LB GVWR.It's widely known as the F-450 equivalent with many auto stores listing parts under either name.These trucks are easy to spot with their pickup size cabs,yet unique F-Super Duty fender emblems & 10 lug wheels.


the 8th digit in the vin denotes the 7.3l idi diesel (non turbo.)
i just so happen to have written a description of this too.

The Navistar International IDI was the longest produced diesel engine offered in the Ford F-series trucks (1983-1994.) With the Navistar IDI still holding this record today, which consists of three generations and a total of eleven straight years.The 6.9l and the 7.3l Navistar diesel engine became known as one of the most reliable and sought after diesels.Despite its modest power by modern standards,many enthusiasts still claim it was,and currently still is, Fords best era of diesel equipped trucks for reliability, affordability and a common favorite: simplicity.Since it has no on board pcm nor emissions.with many reports of well over 300,000 miles and counting.


don't touch this one if you don't need it.she wont get the economy the f250/350 will.
if it's what your after,being a rust free 2wd Florida truck with low miles and his parts replacement list,it could be a decent buy.
I thought the "F47" would indicate what it was but I couldn't find that in writing.

The ad says that the F350 badges were added.

Did Ford not make the F450 model then? They called it a Superduty?

What do you suppose the fuel economy would be with that 5.13?

I am a lot more familiar with the 99+ trucks. I like the idea of the IDI.

Wiki had a good writeup on it:

Thanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Harvester_IDI
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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There is no transfer case, it's a 2wd truck. Whether you want to call it a F-450 or Super Duty it means the same thing in this vintage truck.

I would expect in the 6-9 MPG range for fuel. But I am no a diesel expert. Be aware many insurance companies charge a premium for commercial duty trucks like this one. Likewise when you try to get plates for it. Some states will $soak$ you.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
There is no transfer case, it's a 2wd truck. Whether you want to call it a F-450 or Super Duty it means the same thing in this vintage truck.

I would expect in the 6-9 MPG range for fuel. But I am no a diesel expert. Be aware many insurance companies charge a premium for commercial duty trucks like this one. Likewise when you try to get plates for it. Some states will $soak$ you.
Brain fart. Yes it is 2wd. I thought he was saying something about the 4wd trucks.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mjpower76
Well if you want to know all about your truck based off the Vin. Here is what I got when I message ford about a build sheet.

Basic Build Sheet will detail your vehicle's "as built" options:
*
- Model year
- Manufacturing plant name and location
- Body style
- Build date
- Engine size
- Consecutive unit serial number
- Transmission description
- Rear axle ratio and description (locking or non-locking)
- Tire size
- Exterior paint color and code
- Interior trim color and code
- Interior options
- Any other option information available
*
The Deluxe Build Sheet will include all available production figures in addition to the Basic Build Sheet information. Each build sheet is drafted on Ford stationery that is signed by Ms. Elena Ford -- a great addition to any car enthusiast's collection.

Build Sheets can be ordered online at the Shop Ford Gear website or to our supplier HELM at:
*
Shop Ford Gear web site:
Shop Ford Gear

HELM customer Support:
1-877-782-4356
Thanks for the info - I just ordered the basic build sheet for one of my trucks.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2014 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mjpower76
Well if you want to know all about your truck based off the Vin. Here is what I got when I message ford about a build sheet.

Basic Build Sheet will detail your vehicle's "as built" options:
*
- Model year
- Manufacturing plant name and location
- Body style
- Build date
- Engine size
- Consecutive unit serial number
- Transmission description
- Rear axle ratio and description (locking or non-locking)
- Tire size
- Exterior paint color and code
- Interior trim color and code
- Interior options
- Any other option information available
*
The Deluxe Build Sheet will include all available production figures in addition to the Basic Build Sheet information. Each build sheet is drafted on Ford stationery that is signed by Ms. Elena Ford -- a great addition to any car enthusiast's collection.

Build Sheets can be ordered online at the Shop Ford Gear website or to our supplier HELM at:
*
Shop Ford Gear web site:
www.shopfordgear.com

HELM customer Support:
1-877-782-4356

Thanks. A lot of that information is coded on the door sticker. I had a decoder for the newer trucks but not for these.
 
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