So much for cold start capability
Lead Driver
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Any update, my truck is doing the exact same thing, lol.
I'm not questioning my trucks ability though, after the temps my truck has seen and started in the last 2.5 winters....gonna get new batteries tomorrow, dealer said they the would warranty it, BUT I would have to ship the truck there, 3 hours away...
Oh and my truck was plugged in, so that didn't help, but it had sat for 2 weeks.
Maybe some of the stock batteries are turds...
Edit, just seen your last post...
I'm not questioning my trucks ability though, after the temps my truck has seen and started in the last 2.5 winters....gonna get new batteries tomorrow, dealer said they the would warranty it, BUT I would have to ship the truck there, 3 hours away...
Oh and my truck was plugged in, so that didn't help, but it had sat for 2 weeks.
Maybe some of the stock batteries are turds...
Edit, just seen your last post...
Cargo Master
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From: TEXAS
I have not checked the 6.7 owners manual to see what it says to do.
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page 47 of the diesel supplement:
JUMP STARTING YOUR VEHICLE
Note: Do not attempt to push-start your automatic transmission vehicle.
Automatic transmissions do not have push-start capability. Attempting to
push-start a vehicle with an automatic transmission may cause
transmission damage.
The 6.7 diesel engine can be jump started using the same procedure as a
gasoline engine. Use the primary battery (battery located on the
passenger side) for any jump starting procedure and refer to your
Owner’s Manual for the proper method of jump starting.
http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo.../1360l6d1e.pdf
JUMP STARTING YOUR VEHICLE
Note: Do not attempt to push-start your automatic transmission vehicle.
Automatic transmissions do not have push-start capability. Attempting to
push-start a vehicle with an automatic transmission may cause
transmission damage.
The 6.7 diesel engine can be jump started using the same procedure as a
gasoline engine. Use the primary battery (battery located on the
passenger side) for any jump starting procedure and refer to your
Owner’s Manual for the proper method of jump starting.
http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo.../1360l6d1e.pdf
Postmaster
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From: Maryland
I'm not sure I understand the benefit of jumping the cables across both batteries. The system is already 2-12v batteries wired parallel and by jumping you are simply adding yet another parallel battery. I would like to know the science behind your method. I am always open to learn new things and this could be my item for the day.
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From: southeast PA
Jumping diesels can get tricky, it takes a lot of power to get them cranking. While my pickup has been flawless, my work truck (2012 Pete) with an 8.9 Paccar and a draw...........is a sonofabitch to jump. I've done it with my escort when my truck was on order, and it takes forever with a little car alternator to get it to run. And then with low voltage it will crank but not fire the injectors. It'll drain booster packs and not start faster than you can say drain. My pickup can get it going pretty quick, as long as it was plugged in, if it wasn't plugged in nothing short of a charger will start it.
Dead cold oil and marginal batteries will do it everytime.
Dead cold oil and marginal batteries will do it everytime.
Lead Driver
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From: Tennessee
Glad you have a good dealer to work with . I see horror stories all the time . I do think a lot have to do with customer attitude though . However , I do Know of One in particular that Is a Bad Dealer service department .... Not a Ford dealer , but a local rip off dealer that I wont name .
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I've never seen my glow plugs stay on longer than like 5 seconds even at -30.
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From: Maryland
The glow plugs don't seem to be anywhere near the drain that the older versions were. The glow plugs on the poor old 7.3 would practically drain any good battery before you even had a chance to crank on it. At 0F, my glow plug light doesn't stay on more than 3 seconds. I know that they can still cycle after the truck starts, but at that point it isn't so much of a battery drain issue.
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To the OP, glad you got hooked up and are back on the road.
My experience with vehicle batteries is that all of a sudden they just die. I rarely can tell before hand when they are getting ready to go. I've had them die even after they started the vehicle great first thing in the morning. I had a built up high compression Mustang (no turbo/supercharger) and it ate 1150 CCA batteries for lunch - about every month I was going into Discount Auto Parts to get another one. This was before the 3 strikes and they give you your money back and won't sell you another one policy. Not sure about the AutoZone's as I got rid of the car before they bought them out. Motor ran awesome, it just broke all the accessories around it. Starters were another fun item.
I do like using my SD to jump other cars, I never turn on my truck to do it. Therefore, I don't worry about them slamming the gas pedal when it starts and taking out my alternator.
My experience with vehicle batteries is that all of a sudden they just die. I rarely can tell before hand when they are getting ready to go. I've had them die even after they started the vehicle great first thing in the morning. I had a built up high compression Mustang (no turbo/supercharger) and it ate 1150 CCA batteries for lunch - about every month I was going into Discount Auto Parts to get another one. This was before the 3 strikes and they give you your money back and won't sell you another one policy. Not sure about the AutoZone's as I got rid of the car before they bought them out. Motor ran awesome, it just broke all the accessories around it. Starters were another fun item.
I do like using my SD to jump other cars, I never turn on my truck to do it. Therefore, I don't worry about them slamming the gas pedal when it starts and taking out my alternator.
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From: SW Montana
Enjoy your global warming!
Tuned
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From: Jackson,WY
Ok guys, we all were 'right'. (Two batteries replaced under warranty - went up to the 850 CCA over the 750 as well)
It seemed to me that the batteries were weak; I said as much last Friday when I went by the dealership to have lunch with the guys. I'm guessing what threw me off was the fact that it started so well a week or so ago when it was -12.
The tech started the test on the first battery before lunch; the machine did not come up with an answer until a half hour after his return: 'bad'. The second one tested out 'bad' in just 5 minutes.
So they're looking over a few other things (memory seat does not return to position after key insertion, can't turn key to position '0' on shutdown, and an errant backup sensor), so I might not get it back until tomorrow.
No worries though, I'm driving a SHO. (Did I say I just *love* this dealer?)
It seemed to me that the batteries were weak; I said as much last Friday when I went by the dealership to have lunch with the guys. I'm guessing what threw me off was the fact that it started so well a week or so ago when it was -12.
The tech started the test on the first battery before lunch; the machine did not come up with an answer until a half hour after his return: 'bad'. The second one tested out 'bad' in just 5 minutes.
So they're looking over a few other things (memory seat does not return to position after key insertion, can't turn key to position '0' on shutdown, and an errant backup sensor), so I might not get it back until tomorrow.
No worries though, I'm driving a SHO. (Did I say I just *love* this dealer?)
And that is the main reason why I don't plug mine in, being plugged in will not let you know the batteries are getting weak and may or may not start the truck when it is -40F, when you happen to be parked out in the middle of no where with no way to get the truck going again. At least if the truck won't start in the morning before you leave the house you can do something about it.
Glad to hear your dealer got you going again.
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And that is the main reason why I don't plug mine in, being plugged in will not let you know the batteries are getting weak and may or may not start the truck when it is -40F, when you happen to be parked out in the middle of no where with no way to get the truck going again. At least if the truck won't start in the morning before you leave the house you can do something about it.
Glad to hear your dealer got you going again.