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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 10:13 PM
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Question VIN code for F600

Any help deciphering the VIN code for this recently acquired F600 Dump Truck would be appreciated. Thanks a bunch...
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 1975-F6004x4Dump
Any help deciphering the VIN code for this recently acquired F600 Dump Truck would be appreciated.
Where is the VIN? No see um.

Post the VIN and all the codes stamped on the Warranty Plate, located on the left door face below the latch.

I decoded the front and rear axle tags, Warranty Plate axle code that you listed in your other thread.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Where is the VIN? No see um.

Post the VIN and all the codes stamped on the Warranty Plate, located on the left door face below the latch.

I decoded the front and rear axle tags, Warranty Plate axle code that you listed in your other thread.
THANKS! For decoding the axles. Pic attached of Warranty plate..Look forward to finding out what I have.
 
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I had to type all the codes as your photo wouldn't reproduce with a quote.

VIN: F66EVW40431 // W.B. 176 / COLOR: L / TYPE GVW: F660 / BODY: 4 8 / TRANS: M / AXLE: 54J / MAX GVW LBS: 21700 / DSO: 52

F66 = F600 4WD (gas).

E = 361 2V or 4V FT engine.

V = Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant.

W40431 = 1975.

176" Wheelbase.

L = Holly Green.

F660 = F600 4WD (gas), 21,700 lbs. GVWR

BODY 4 8: 4 = Black Vinyl, Full Width Seat / 8 = 81A Standard Cab.

M = Clark model 285V 5 Speed Direct.

54J: 54 = Rockwell model H-170 Single Speed Rear Axle / 6.83-1 / 17,500 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity // J = Power Steering.

21,700 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

52 = Dallas TX Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 09:53 PM
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I had to type all the codes as your photo wouldn't reproduce with a quote.

VIN: F66EVW40431 // W.B. 176 / COLOR: L / TYPE GVW: F660 / BODY: 4 8 / TRANS: M / AXLE: 54J / MAX GVW LBS: 21700 / DSO: 52

F66 = F600 4WD (gas).

E = 361 2V or 4V FT engine.

V = Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant.

W40431 = 1975.

176" Wheelbase.

L = Holly Green.

F660 = F600 4WD (gas), 21,700 lbs. GVWR

BODY 4 8: 4 = Black Vinyl, Full Width Seat / 8 = 81A Standard Cab.

M = Clark model 285V 5 Speed Direct.

54J: 54 = Rockwell model H-170 Single Speed Rear Axle / 6.83-1 / 17,500 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity // J = Power Steering.

21,700 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

52 = Dallas TX Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

THANK YOU!

Not sure why pic wouldn't post.. sorry about that.

The is a "New" truck to me and at this point I am just sorting out what it was stock and what has been done to it. For example this morning I found faint markings under the hood saying "engine replaced 10-77"..I don't know what it was repaced with.. so just started another thread with pics requesting input on identification of current engine..looks to have a 4V carb .. so am now not sure if it is a 361..was just heading out to the shop to see if I can get some carb info with the scope camera. If you have thoughts as to what this "other" engine may be you input would be appreciated. I do have my areas of expertise....big trucks is not one of them..Thanks! for sharing your knowledge
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 10:09 PM
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F66EVW40431

E = 361 2V or 4V FT engine.
1974/78: E refers to both 361 2V & 4V
 
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Old Jan 27, 2014 | 11:38 PM
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1974/78: E refers to both 361 2V & 4V

Didn't know the 361 came with a 4V. Closer inspection reveals the carb on the truck presently is a Holley 4V:

D5TE-9510-CB
List 7158-1
3068

Is it likely this carb came stock with this truck/engine??

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Originally Posted by 1975-F6004x4Dump
Didn't know the 361 came with a 4V. Closer inspection reveals the carb on the truck presently is a Holley 4V:

D5TE-9510-CB / List 7158-1 / 3068

Is it likely this carb came stock with this truck/engine??
ID number: D5TE-9510-CB = Ford part number: D5TZ-9510-C .. Holley 4V Carburetor (Motorcraft CA-1241).

1974/78 F600/750 361 except CA emission.
 
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ID number: D5TE-9510-CB = Ford part number: D5TZ-9510-C .. Holley 4V Carburetor (Motorcraft CA-1241).

1974/78 F600/750 361 except CA emission.
That will be helpful to know.. when the parts guy asks: "is it stock"..Great beast you have there as co-pilot..neighbor of ours has one.. bit challenged for ground clearance in the snow..like a little tank. ears are like streamers riding around in the RZR atv at speed..funny as hell. THANKS! for the help
 
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ID number: D5TE-9510-CB = Ford part number: D5TZ-9510-C .. Holley 4V Carburetor (Motorcraft CA-1241).

1974/78 F600/750 361 except CA emission.
Am still working on identifying this engine, intake manifold is stamped: "D5TE 9425" and "5A13" small letters just above previous. Doubt this will identify engine.

Today received a much awaited 3 volume 1976 ford trucks 600/900 ..vol 1, vol 2 and illustrations.. 13 lbs of great information and illustrations...that being said, I expect to be less of a bother....in the future...but can not guarantee that.

Parts book indicates that engine identification for the V8 can be found the following places for the 1973 and up engines:

1) "Front of right hand rocker cover" assuming right is the passenger side...find nothing.. no tag..old unreadable tag is on drivers side valve cover

2) ID Tag "under Heat Indicator Bulb" can't seem to find the "Bulb" so I can then look for "tag" . would think it should be obvious..but am still looking.. where is it?? have been looking through the parts books too.. not finding it.. would the "bulb" be in the "Engine" section or somewhere else? can find nothing called: "heat indicator bulb"

Below the coil there are 3 numbers cast in block: 352

Since there is good reason tho believe the engine has been replaced as of 10-31-77 I looking for a way to identify it..any thoughts?



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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:48 PM
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TAM Eng. Corp. Tag on engine block

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
ID number: D5TE-9510-CB = Ford part number: D5TZ-9510-C .. Holley 4V Carburetor (Motorcraft CA-1241).

1974/78 F600/750 361 except CA emission.

Have yet to find any numbers to identify the engine...but did find a small aluminum tag attached with silicone to the left side of the block: Reads TAM Eng. Corp..Tacoma WA....so...it looks like this engine.. whatever it is.. and whatever it came out of ... was rebuilt at some point..and put in this 1975 truck in October of 1977. Seem to be coming up with more questions.... than answers...hmmmm
 
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Tam was a Ford authorized engine rebuilder in Tacoma Washington. That tag may also have some numbers, like "30 10 10" or something like that, for .030 over on the bore and .010 under on the bearings, a standard rebuild result.

Since it was an authorized Ford rebuilder, my guess is it's a 361.

It is not possible to ID these engine externally once tags etc are gone, as the blocks, heads and manifolds are the same on most, especially between a 361 and 391.

The 361 has a 4.050" bore, and a 3.5" stroke. You can measure your stroke via a plug hole using a length of wire. A 391 has the same bore with a 3.78" stroke.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:37 PM
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Tam was a Ford authorized engine rebuilder in Tacoma Washington. That tag may also have some numbers, like "30 10 10" or something like that, for .030 over on the bore and .010 under on the bearings, a standard rebuild result.

Since it was an authorized Ford rebuilder, my guess is it's a 361.

It is not possible to ID these engine externally once tags etc are gone, as the blocks, heads and manifolds are the same on most, especially between a 361 and 391.

The 361 has a 4.050" bore, and a 3.5" stroke. You can measure your stroke via a plug hole using a length of wire. A 391 has the same bore with a 3.78" stroke.

That's helpful, Regarding Tam..so there absolutely no way to determine engine displacement with external information in the engine??..castings, stamped numbers etc as of vin tags and the such would be useless. Have heard there are supposed to be numbers in various places on the engine that indicates what it is?? Any specific reason you think it is a 361 and not 391 or 331? Thanks for your input pic of TAM tag attached
 
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Originally Posted by 1975-F6004x4Dump
Am still working on identifying this engine, intake manifold is stamped: "D5TE 9425" and "5A13" small letters just above previous. Doubt this will identify engine.
5A13 = Manifold cast January (A) 13, 1975 (5).

Today received a much awaited 3 volume 1976 ford trucks 600/900 ..vol 1, vol 2 and illustrations.. 13 lbs of great information and illustrations...that being said, I expect to be less of a bother....in the future...but can not guarantee that.
1973/79 Ford HEAVY Truck Parts Catalog available on a C/D from hipoparts.com for about 22 bucks.

Weighs one hell of a lot less than 13 lbs! I have this C/D and an original Ford microfiche version.

"352" cast on FE & FT engine blocks is a foundry mark only.

There are no casting numbers, date codes on FE and FT engine blocks, cylinder heads, intake manifolds and etc. that decode to engine type or size.

Casting numbers are also foundry marks, cannot be cross referenced to Ford part numbers.

As Ed pointed out in post 12, this is a rebuilt engine from an authorized Ford rebuilder. Could have been dealer installed or bought at the parts counter and installed by?
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
1973/79 Ford HEAVY Truck Parts Catalog available on a C/D from hipoparts.com for about 22 bucks.

Weighs one hell of a lot less than 13 lbs! I have this C/D and an original Ford microfiche version.

"352" cast on FE & FT engine blocks is a foundry mark only.

There are no casting numbers, date codes on FE and FT engine blocks, cylinder heads, intake manifolds and etc. that decode to engine type or size.

Casting numbers are also foundry marks, cannot be cross referenced to Ford part numbers.

As Ed pointed out in post 12, this is a rebuilt engine from an authorized Ford rebuilder. Could have been dealer installed or bought at the parts counter and installed by?


Yep..Won't be taking this parts catalog on the airplane.. .. .. I like my shop stuff printed.. old fashion that way.. can scribble on things.. highlight, take it here and there..like to the shop, shade tree mechanic next door, office or parts store...don't have to print anything..already done.. Bought the whole 3 volume set in great unused condition for $35 and $10 shipping..which I think was really cheap. Also easier on the eyes not having to stare at the computer.

Looks like I will have to measure the stroke to figure out the displacement....where did I put those chopsticks? suppose I could stick the flexible scope cam down the plug hole and read the markings on the top of the piston to see what oversize it is. This motor sounds sweet.. something between a purr and a rumble.. no smoke, no exhaust leaks, starts right up every time.

I am posting some info from page 8 and 9 section 60 of the 1976 Ford Parts Catalog that describes identifying these engines...the procedure did not help in my instance as I could not find any of the referred to tags or labels, but maybe it will help others.

Thanks for the input!
 
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