I love the F150, I have an F350 as well I just read my new diesel power on the new dodge 1500 diesel, pretty impressive and 28 mpgs at 75-80 and 19 mpg's towing 7500 lbs, I have ridden in a gas version with the coil spring rear suspension, very very nice ride. Ford needs a baby powerstroke in the f150, they were the first to talk about it and did the ecoboost instead, trash the v6 ecoboost, do a v6 turbodiesel and do a 5.0-6.2 ecoboost for those who want gas big block power.

 

That won't happen for many years. The EPA regulations on diesels are asinine and it is more cost effective to continue with the ecoboost. Although the stigma still exists around a V6, the ecoboost has proven itself nicely in both sales and customer satisfaction. It puts out great power and unmatched gas fuel economy. The Dodge may get 28 mpgs, but the new F-150 may very well get the same fuel economy and power, while still using cheaper fuel. I am a strong supporter of diesel fuel, but it is being regulated out of practicality. A policy change is necessary in both EPA and tax regulations to make diesel as big as it should be. Ford claims massive towing and payload numbers for the 2015. I believe they will likely beat Dodge's numbers, but only time will tell how things turn out. I hope this doesn't happen, but Dodge could swoop in and make the best selling vehicle in the US. I doubt it, but it is possible.

 

I have to ask WHY? There is no need or benefit to having a diesel. It actually would cost more. Both upfront and in the long haul. So again WHY? The ecoboost with the 3.15 gears is rated to tow with the 11-14 truck 7700lbs, and with the 3.73 gears up to 11,300 lbs. It produces 365 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque. The ecodiesel is I think 310-320 hp. and 420 lb-ft of torque. Max tow with the ecodiesel in 9800lbs. So where is the benefit. Higher purchase price. Higher cost of maintenance. Higher cost of fuel and the addition of def. Plus and outrageous cost to replace the exhaust system. Which will need to be done more often then with a gas engine. So for me I say No thank you. I take the 3.5 ecoboost.

 

I just now did some research on the Ram diesel. I am amazed they didn't do more with it. Those numbers above are accurate and that is just pitiful for a diesel engine. Why didn't they just stick a straight 6 cummins in. I know it would fit and it would have given the power of a 3/4 ton.

 

All of the reasons I stated above is why Ford says they won't offer a diesel in the 150 truck.

 

The Ecoboost is a $1350 option here in Canada over the 5.0 V8.
On the Ram, the EcoDiesel is $4500 more than the Hemi, and $5500 more than the base V6.

I don't think I should have to pay that much, and have a tow rating that low. Sounds like a bad bargain.

 

I just switched from diesel to gas, GMC Duramax to V10, I miss the diesel economy and low end towing, dont miss the gmc crappy build. Too many people have never driven a diesel, I swore I'd never buy a gas motor again but with emissions and all the new stuff required I will re-state that, I will only buy a new diesel with a warranty and then sell it after the warranty. I will say If I had big bux to spend, the 2008-2010 6.4 powerstroke was the best if not better than a cummins for power. If I buy a f250-f350 again it will be a 7.3 or 6.7, of you can delete the 6.4 is the bomb. I got a 5 star tuned v10 now.50 cents a gallon cheaper and 8-10 mpgs less

 

If I bought a new diesel vehicle right now, I would keep it completely stock till the end of warranty, then I would strip every single EPA piece of crap system off of it if at all possible. In my opinion they are worse than the IRS or NSA when it comes to government organizations.

 

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...light=tow+meet

Why does the F150 need a diesel??

 

Yes, the EPA is driving current changes across the board. All because it "looks good" - like they're doing something, whether it matters or not.

The F150 is going lighter and leaner.

No diesel. We'll be lucky to keep the little 5.0 in all honesty. Plenty of people in power would just as we'll we drive 100% electric.

 

The tow and payload ratings put down by the ecodiesel aren't restricted by the engine but rather the chassis. Ram chose to build a better riding lighter duty half ton truck, Ford chose to build a truck capable of heavy work.

I think if one could project cradle to grave costs of the diesel and the ecoboost, it may take a couple hundred thousand miles to realize a break even point.

I think Ford should offer the diesel, it's going into the Transit Van, aka (T-series), it should be tested for the F-150 and made available for those with deep enough pockets.

 

Not too sure about that, personally I will reserve any comment for few years just to see how a new limited market diesels preform and hold up. Too many people in past years spent good money for a privilege of being factory test drivers.

 

There was a small article in the last Truck Trend that stated that the Euro diesels used in the VW and the Ranger aren't holding up much past 100K miles when used for towing and hard work. These engines are built for fuel economy not stump pulling. This could very well apply to the Ford 3.2L slated for the T-series vans. And, it could be the future of the Ram diesel as well.

The ecoboost is a very heavy over built engine intended for hard work and truck like abuse. 10-15 years from now, people will be clamoring for these little engines like they are for the V-10's today.

 

The EPA has made the diesel pickup not practicle on a cost/efficient basis for the average "Middle Class Private Citizen." Way too expensive to run & maintain over the long haul! Heck you can buy a small house for what any of the big three want for a new unit! Good luck when your out of warranty too!

 

With the up-front cost, maintenance, EPA controls, and fuel cost, a diesel simply doesn't make sense in the US today unless you *need* the power (for instance, towing 100% of the time). Even still, there are people who hot-shot for a living that are going to gassers.

That's not to say that diesel is bad, or that a baby diesel in an F150 wouldn't sell. It probably would... if it weren't for a $5K+ up front cost, oil changes at 2-4x the cost, and $0.50-$1.00/gal higher fuel cost.