we need an f150 diesel and fast!
#106
03-11-2014, 12:45 PM
That won't happen for many years. The EPA regulations on diesels are asinine and it is more cost effective to continue with the ecoboost. Although the stigma still exists around a V6, the ecoboost has proven itself nicely in both sales and customer satisfaction. It puts out great power and unmatched gas fuel economy. The Dodge may get 28 mpgs, but the new F-150 may very well get the same fuel economy and power, while still using cheaper fuel. I am a strong supporter of diesel fuel, but it is being regulated out of practicality. A policy change is necessary in both EPA and tax regulations to make diesel as big as it should be. Ford claims massive towing and payload numbers for the 2015. I believe they will likely beat Dodge's numbers, but only time will tell how things turn out. I hope this doesn't happen, but Dodge could swoop in and make the best selling vehicle in the US. I doubt it, but it is possible.
Btw, Dodges will get low to mid-30s MPG since diesels ALWAYS get better than the EPA ratings. (and Hybrids ALWAYS get LESS than the ratings).
#108
03-11-2014, 04:52 PM
I can buy that you can get better mileage than what the the tag says...been there done that. Only time you won't get what the tag says is traffic conditions compared to computer models and wind tunnel figures or your just hard on the vehicle.
Few years ago the F150 was going to get a diesel, the 4.5L V6 PowerStroke..similar to the 6L but 2 pistons chopped off. But EPA regs changed and the idea was dropped and the engine went into some of their small COE box trucks. It is also called the Vt275 or something like that.
Few years ago the F150 was going to get a diesel, the 4.5L V6 PowerStroke..similar to the 6L but 2 pistons chopped off. But EPA regs changed and the idea was dropped and the engine went into some of their small COE box trucks. It is also called the Vt275 or something like that.
#109
03-12-2014, 08:44 AM
If I'm not mistaken wasn't that a 4.4L diesel? And wasn't that engine built by International? As I recall the reason it got scrapped was because of the lawsuits between both Ford and International. And yes then the reason Ford didn't continue with their own small diesel in the F150 was dues to the EPA regs. Also they were only offer for a couple of years in the COE trucks. And they were mainly geared to local delivery type businesses who's trucks were run all day long.
#110
03-12-2014, 10:06 AM
Nope. Your thinking of the Lion 4.4L. The VT275 4.5L was essentially a 6.0L Powerstroke with 2 pistons chopped off...and a few parts between those engines were interchangeable. The 4.5L V6 was in the 2005-2009 Ford LCF and International CF box trucks. 4.5L Power Stroke Specs (VT275)
I only know of one guy so far who has dropped this diesel into a truck. He's doing it in a 1987 Ranger. He got the box truck for cheap, looked like it was in a crash.
Yeah it was built by International. It was able to meet Regulations for box trucks but not pickup trucks...not sure what the difference is but whatever. 200hp and 440ft/lbs of torque...about as much as a Cummins 5.9L I6 with a 215hp PPump.
EcoStroke V6 Ranger Powerstroke VT275 Maxxforce5
I'd bet the fuel economy in a pickup would be about 17-22mpg. Probably would be a nice swap engine, but you'd need to adapt it to OBD-II or somehow get ahold of the commercial style equivalent.
I only know of one guy so far who has dropped this diesel into a truck. He's doing it in a 1987 Ranger. He got the box truck for cheap, looked like it was in a crash.
Yeah it was built by International. It was able to meet Regulations for box trucks but not pickup trucks...not sure what the difference is but whatever. 200hp and 440ft/lbs of torque...about as much as a Cummins 5.9L I6 with a 215hp PPump.
EcoStroke V6 Ranger Powerstroke VT275 Maxxforce5
I'd bet the fuel economy in a pickup would be about 17-22mpg. Probably would be a nice swap engine, but you'd need to adapt it to OBD-II or somehow get ahold of the commercial style equivalent.
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