e150 coil springs
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e150 coil springs
Hey Guys. I'm new to this Forum but I hope to start becoming more active.
I have a '95 E150 5.8 with 186k that I felt was a bit soft in the suspension. After some research, I ordered and installed these:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mog-cc844/overview/
They are the Moog CC844 if the link doesn't work.
Perfect! They went right in no problem. I gained somewhere between 1 and 2 inches in height. The biggest difference, however, is the improvement in ride quality. It actually rides smoother now over bumps than it did before but it leans and tosses around less. I think what was happening before was that it was sagging down onto the bump stops and that's why I seemed to be crashing and banging over every small bump in the road. I just need to fix the Possitive Camber that I gained in the process, but for now I am very happy.
If anyone feels that their e150 could use a little more firmness in the front, I recommend these!
I have a '95 E150 5.8 with 186k that I felt was a bit soft in the suspension. After some research, I ordered and installed these:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mog-cc844/overview/
They are the Moog CC844 if the link doesn't work.
Perfect! They went right in no problem. I gained somewhere between 1 and 2 inches in height. The biggest difference, however, is the improvement in ride quality. It actually rides smoother now over bumps than it did before but it leans and tosses around less. I think what was happening before was that it was sagging down onto the bump stops and that's why I seemed to be crashing and banging over every small bump in the road. I just need to fix the Possitive Camber that I gained in the process, but for now I am very happy.
If anyone feels that their e150 could use a little more firmness in the front, I recommend these!
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I've also purchased Moog front coils and intend to have them installed when I finally break down and buy a new set of Michelin LTX's for my own E250.
Already replaced nearly every other front end suspension part with new Moog parts. Even the steering box, leaking lower seal, Ford reman'd unit. New Bilstein shocks too---no cheap crap up front for me.
I used Amazon for the Moog parts---best prices I could find AND free shipping too!
Already replaced nearly every other front end suspension part with new Moog parts. Even the steering box, leaking lower seal, Ford reman'd unit. New Bilstein shocks too---no cheap crap up front for me.
I used Amazon for the Moog parts---best prices I could find AND free shipping too!
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For shocks I'll never again use anything but Bilstein----yes they're that good. Life expectancy, lifetime guarantee, high quality----and a noticeable difference in their performance all contribute to that claim.
I have no experience with anything else but that's okay---finding that one good part means I can concentrate on finding other good parts now!
I've found those as cheap as I can from eShocks.com----depending on your location they can be to you the next day.
Life expectancy, lifetime guarantee, high quality----and a noticeable difference in their performance all contribute to that claim.I have no experience with anything else but that's okay---finding that one good part means I can concentrate on finding other good parts now!
I've found those as cheap as I can from eShocks.com----depending on your location they can be to you the next day.
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If you want to REALLY improve the handling of that E150, replace the stock swaybar with a 1-1/4" Addco swaybar. I did the same thing you did, replaced the front coils with the HD set and replaced the front shocks but it wasn't till I changed the swaybar with the Addco that the handling improved. My 96 is a high top Explorer conversion with a 351, it now handles like a GT Stang.
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Hey Baddad
You know, I actually ordered a swaybar kit from HellWig... 1-3/8". But when I opened up the box and looked at all the parts, I didn't like what I saw. It would definitely fit, but it required a whole lot of parts and changes to the front end that I didn't feel would be a good idea, such as brackets with U-bolts and swaybar links and a whole lot of things that deviate from what is really a perfect design.
All of us E-series owners know that the sway bar poking through the control arm set up is about as simple as it gets. It just needs to be thicker.
I'm going to try and see if i can get an Ambulance package sway bar up there (if it fits).
You know, I actually ordered a swaybar kit from HellWig... 1-3/8". But when I opened up the box and looked at all the parts, I didn't like what I saw. It would definitely fit, but it required a whole lot of parts and changes to the front end that I didn't feel would be a good idea, such as brackets with U-bolts and swaybar links and a whole lot of things that deviate from what is really a perfect design.
All of us E-series owners know that the sway bar poking through the control arm set up is about as simple as it gets. It just needs to be thicker.
I'm going to try and see if i can get an Ambulance package sway bar up there (if it fits).
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Hey Baddad
You know, I actually ordered a swaybar kit from HellWig... 1-3/8". But when I opened up the box and looked at all the parts, I didn't like what I saw. It would definitely fit, but it required a whole lot of parts and changes to the front end that I didn't feel would be a good idea, such as brackets with U-bolts and swaybar links and a whole lot of things that deviate from what is really a perfect design.
All of us E-series owners know that the sway bar poking through the control arm set up is about as simple as it gets. It just needs to be thicker.
You know, I actually ordered a swaybar kit from HellWig... 1-3/8". But when I opened up the box and looked at all the parts, I didn't like what I saw. It would definitely fit, but it required a whole lot of parts and changes to the front end that I didn't feel would be a good idea, such as brackets with U-bolts and swaybar links and a whole lot of things that deviate from what is really a perfect design.
All of us E-series owners know that the sway bar poking through the control arm set up is about as simple as it gets. It just needs to be thicker.
There aren't any changes to anything using Hellwig although I guess they do use a few parts not usually found on an E-Series chassis. Being a one time installation that's hardly a huge drawback.
Naturally I use Hellwig both front and rear, having purchased those over Addco's versions after talking with Hellwig engineers. I like that they DON'T rely on bushings through the I Beam in order to be functional and remain so over time.
In some cases simple isn't always better--this is a prime example of that. OTOH Hellwig's installation isn't tough to accomplish at all---I've done it twice all by myself.
The ambulance package might be a good idea assuming its compatible with the E350 and lower rating---if we're talking something from an E450/550 thous would be completely different.
Increasing the front sway bar's effectiveness is important if handling is our concern. So is adding the rear sway bar--another huge improvement IMHO.
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Hey Baddad
You know, I actually ordered a swaybar kit from HellWig... 1-3/8". But when I opened up the box and looked at all the parts, I didn't like what I saw. It would definitely fit, but it required a whole lot of parts and changes to the front end that I didn't feel would be a good idea, such as brackets with U-bolts and swaybar links and a whole lot of things that deviate from what is really a perfect design.
All of us E-series owners know that the sway bar poking through the control arm set up is about as simple as it gets. It just needs to be thicker.
I'm going to try and see if i can get an Ambulance package sway bar up there (if it fits).
You know, I actually ordered a swaybar kit from HellWig... 1-3/8". But when I opened up the box and looked at all the parts, I didn't like what I saw. It would definitely fit, but it required a whole lot of parts and changes to the front end that I didn't feel would be a good idea, such as brackets with U-bolts and swaybar links and a whole lot of things that deviate from what is really a perfect design.
All of us E-series owners know that the sway bar poking through the control arm set up is about as simple as it gets. It just needs to be thicker.
I'm going to try and see if i can get an Ambulance package sway bar up there (if it fits).
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Even though we have different brands the improvements we've noticed do speak loudly to the wisdom thereof.
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Alright folks, I'll give the Hellwig system a shot since it's just sitting there taking up space anyways. The coil springs and shocks improved my ride so much that I have seemingly no body roll any more in comparison as it is (IN COMPARISON is to be emphasized here), but we'll see what happens. I'll surely repost the results. That 1-3/8" bar is a gnarly beast.
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Alright folks, I'll give the Hellwig system a shot since it's just sitting there taking up space anyways. The coil springs and shocks improved my ride so much that I have seemingly no body roll any more in comparison as it is (IN COMPARISON is to be emphasized here), but we'll see what happens. I'll surely repost the results. That 1-3/8" bar is a gnarly beast.
You'll be pleasantly surprised what an effective front bar gives you. If the budget allows look into a rear bar too----that's quite a huge improvement IMHO.
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So I installed the Hellwig system in the front today. After replacing the rear leaf springs while salt and slush dripped all over me, the sway bar was simple in comparison. I still think the universal nature of the system is about as cheeseball as something could possibly be, it seems to work, but I won't really know for sure until I can get on some paved roads. The nuts and ubolts are definately a lower grade metal than what I just put in my rear leaf spring brackets, but then again, thats a lot more critical lol.
Im curious as to where you found a factory style 1-3/8" bar to make the comparison to in performance. Regardless, I went in to get my camber angle fixed (due to the original topic of this thread) and learned that all 4 of my original 20-year old ball joints need to be replaced. THAT will definetely be an improvement.
Im curious as to where you found a factory style 1-3/8" bar to make the comparison to in performance. Regardless, I went in to get my camber angle fixed (due to the original topic of this thread) and learned that all 4 of my original 20-year old ball joints need to be replaced. THAT will definetely be an improvement.