Had a 7.3 excursion, last truck was a 96 250 w/ 460, thought it was great almost went with a superduty but a buddy who dumped diesels after a 6.0 and 6.4 debacle convinced me Eco. Can't beat this truck with the air bags and load E tires it out tows my 250 with 10k lb trailers in stopping, pulling (lower rpm less downshift and when it does down shift can grab 1 gear where 460 needed 2 to pass someone) and while it still feels weird if it happens, somehow the computer can do some cool stuff with trailer sway and stability, and to be honest the frame feels stronger than my 250 did with loads on it.

Say what you will in my experience 11 F150 trumps my 96 250 in most all ways plus gets better gas mileage and it's wayyy faster. We have the 5.0 in some of our company 150s it's also a very solid and strong motor, but my Eco is just stronger from bottom to top I'm just fighting the urge to throw a tune on it and have a 400hp 500ft/lb 150. Seems like it's just as solid and reliable as my 460 only pain really is why did ford program the pedal to have delay from 0 position when you hop on it... Tune fixes that though

I'm so glad they went to aluminum I work with it on pools it's such a tough material it's about time they got with the times, but then again Carnegie had to walk an elephant across a steel bridge before people thought it could be as strong as iron

 

Yes, to me the bumper did look like it was lowered a bit..didn't seem like a lot of wheel well clearance.

 

I personally am not a fan of the new body style. Its not horrible but I think it is a step back form the current F-150 in the looks department. IMO it looks like a mix of a tundra and super duty. I am also very disappointed that they got rid of the 6.2, rumor has it that the raptor will be back in 2017 and I really hope that they bring a new engine in with it like they did with the 6.2 back in 2010. The 5.8 from the GT500 would be awesome in the raptor but I doubt Ford would do that. I am hoping that ford will go with an Eco boost 5.0 in the raptor that would eventually fine its way into the super duty's making it a realistic option.

 

I didn't have that style of test in mind. What I had in mind was cruising down the highway and hitting a 5-6% grade for several miles. I was assuming he was going up a grade and passing trucks that were loaded heavier. Like I ALREADY SAID, stick my foot in my mouth.. In that particular test, the Ecoboost seems to have won. I would be curious how they all do pulling that same load and trying to maintain speed at a 6% grade for a few miles. That's a tough pull for most any stock truck.

Just saw this... Don't talk to me like I know nothing about how power works. I can make a freaking 10hp Briggs and Stratton do the same work all those trucks just did with proper gearing, but that doesn't mean I'm going to or that I should. I'm no idiot. I acknowledged his test, now get over yourself. If you want to start getting stupid, I should say that that test wasn't done at the same gross weight per vehicle. That CC 6.4 4x4 weighs quite a bit more than an F-150 does. LOL

 

That's also been done. Sadly by a bunch of meatheads who don't know how to use a freaking brake controller, but otherwise the truck did fantastic.

 

on the topic of the 2015....

I like it, i've spent all day going back to pictures and looking it over.

I'm very curious what the HP/TQ numbers are...especially the 5.0


i will add it makes me even happier knowing i'm buying a 6.2 '11 pretty soon

 

This particular test is not "real world" as far as I'm concerned! Way above sea level. They should also have done it at sea level also!

 

For a lot of us, most of our towing is done at high altitude in the mountains. That's pretty much the only place I tow my trailer.

 

Most of those tests are so lopsided one way or another its hard to get real world results when a company paid for the test to be in their favor.

Its a nice looking truck though. But the cost of Aluminum is about 2x the amount of mild steel so I wonder how much they'll inflate the cost of the trucks to still make a nice profit and not make the customers bend over.

Without making this a huge Political fight, I would say that by making cars and trucks more fuel efficient fuel prices are going to go up because of a lower demand through less consumption. However I may just be talking out of my **** with this so take this for a grain of salt. I'm still young and have a lot to learn so go easy on me.

 

Believe it or not, the inverse is true. If you lower consumption while supply stays the same prices will decrease. There would be a surplus of oil, which means that suppliers would lower costs in order to increase consumption. It's pretty basic economics, and you can read more here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

 

That's you not everybody. I tow my trailer to Florida. Quite flat.

 

Yep, still, if it tows under the harsher more difficult conditions in that test, then it stands to reason that it'll handle Florida highways just fine.

 

No 6.2? I guess I'll be buying used.

 

Before we all complain AGAIN about how these high altitude tests aren't fair maybe some reading is in order

Tow Ratings Finally Pass the Sniff Test - The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) - Automobile Magazine

 

know several people with the Eco boost and not one likes it.