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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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Door lock on '67 quit working

Mentioned it to my neighbor (a locksmith) and he said the pawl had broken off the back of the cylinder. Thought he had some in his truck, but he can't find any. I took the door panel off and found he was indeed correct:




I can read the part number off the back as C7TB-8121-970-A but an internet search comes up empty. Does anyone know where a suitable replacement can be found? For the time being I JB Welded the stick back on. With luck it will work, but I really am not confident it will. I'd take complete lock cylinders too because I can get them re-keyed for cheap, but would prefer to just replace the pawl on this one.

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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vwfreak
Mentioned it to my neighbor (a locksmith) and he said the pawl had broken off the back of the cylinder.

Thought he had some in his truck, but he can't find any. I took the door panel off and found he was indeed correct:

I can read the part number off the back as C7TB-8121970-A but an internet search comes up empty.
This is not a part number, it's an ID engineering number. No Ford part numbers marked on parts after 1956.

Did'ja ever buy the CD catalog? I would assume not, cuz if you looked at the pic, you'd see that:

Despite the ID number, there is no part number, as this "lever" was only furnished with the lock cylinder.

C7TZ-8121984-A .. R/L Door Lock Cylinder w/2 keys - 1967/72 F100/750 / Obsolete

SOEBY MOTOR CO. in Walhalla ND has TWO = 701-549-3711.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has THREE = 800-543-4959.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has NINE = 800-476-9653.

Check with fellow Arid-Zonian JEFFFAFA for a user, he may have one.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 04:44 PM
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lever

As a matter of fact I was sitting here trying to remember if I threw away the one I took off my Bump a while ago. It had a bit of a notch wore in to it. I guess it would be better than a broken one. I'll check when I get home.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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somebody close to you probably has a used one laying around. I have several but am in Florida. Whenever I junk a truck I tend to keep little things. It's not hard to change the key cylinders from one to another.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
This is not a part number, it's an ID engineering number. No Ford part numbers marked on parts after 1956.

Did'ja ever buy the CD catalog? I would assume not, cuz if you looked at the pic, you'd see that:

Despite the ID number, there is no part number, as this "lever" was only furnished with the lock cylinder.

C7TZ-8121984-A .. R/L Door Lock Cylinder w/2 keys - 1967/72 F100/750 / Obsolete

SOEBY MOTOR CO. in Walhalla ND has TWO = 701-549-3711.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has THREE = 800-543-4959.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has NINE = 800-476-9653.

Check with fellow Arid-Zonian JEFFFAFA for a user, he may have one.
Bill,

Your expertise is appreciated as always. I just don't like that you end so many of your sentences with the word "obsolete"....
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
As a matter of fact I was sitting here trying to remember if I threw away the one I took off my Bump a while ago. It had a bit of a notch wore in to it. I guess it would be better than a broken one. I'll check when I get home.
Jefffafa, Any used one would be awesome. In fact, a whole key cylinder (or two) would be good because this stuff isn't getting any younger.

I DID take the opportunity today to swap the unbroken (but heavily notched) passenger side cylinder to the driver's side. I filed the rod that extends from the pawl to smooth it prior to installing on driver's side. While I was at it I took out the latch assy and thoroughly cleaned and oiled it. Oiled up the handle button and it put it all back together. Works like new. SO much less resistance on the pawl now. I'll be doing the other (passenger) side as soon as my new regulator shows up. Ran out of time today and have evening plans anyways.

Thanks for checking on that part for me (again!!)

JIM
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 60F100
somebody close to you probably has a used one laying around. I have several but am in Florida. Whenever I junk a truck I tend to keep little things. It's not hard to change the key cylinders from one to another.
Agreed 60F100. Just need to find some. jefffafa is looking. I really need to find out who owns that old 67 near me.... Lots of useful stuff there for sure.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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One of my neighbors has a 71 4x4 that is for sale as a parts truck. relatively cheap in my opinion, but I am close and no travel is involved.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gembone
One of my neighbors has a 71 4x4 that is for sale as a parts truck. relatively cheap in my opinion, but I am close and no travel is involved.
Ask him/her if the locking cylinders might be available Gembone.

Thanks!

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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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I will check with him tomorrow.
come to think of it, I swapped my locks out when I first got the truck. I will look in my parts box to see if I still have the old ones.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 09:52 AM
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Didn't find it yet. Have not given up yet though. I have a few more places to look that my girlfreind didn't give me time to. What can a I say, nature called then I forgot. Will find those other two boxes of parts tonight. In there I think I have old lock cylinders also.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
Didn't find it yet. Have not given up yet though. I have a few more places to look that my girlfreind didn't give me time to. What can a I say, nature called then I forgot. Will find those other two boxes of parts tonight. In there I think I have old lock cylinders also.
Jefffafa

Again, thanks for looking.

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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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I too do not have very good news for you. Neighbor wants to sell the truck and not part it out, and the lock levers I have are a different style.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gembone
I too do not have very good news for you. Neighbor wants to sell the truck and not part it out, and the lock levers I have are a different style.
No problem 'bone. The JB Weld is holding so far and the pass side doesnt get too much use. I'll find a replacement and a back up at some point.

Got my eyes skinned for 'em.

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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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No problem 'bone. The JB Weld is holding so far and the pass side doesnt get too much use. I'll find a replacement and a back up at some point.

Got my eyes skinned for 'em.
You could buy one a the 14 NOS lock cylinders I listed in post 2. It's a simple operation.

Open your wallet and once the moths fly out, reach in and get your credit card, have it ready when you call.

Soeby Motors will probably be the cheapest, but closes for lunch, so you gotta call before or after.
 
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