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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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Can somebody please give me some feedback!
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Check C135 in the diagram below.





I included the second diagram between them they should give locations for most things in the engine bay this is for a 1993 model if yours is older or has a turbo some things may be relocated

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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 02:07 PM
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Cool thanks, so from this diagram it looks like there isn't a sensor it's a oil pressure switch? Or does this only show electrical components?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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the one thing that's not working though is my oil pressure. I know the gauge works ive tested it so im pretty sure its the sensor. can anyone tell me where its located? please give me some feedback havnt had much as of late

The sender (not the switch, as you stated) is located at the back of the engine. It's easy to find in a van. Hard to locate in a truck. It looks like a cylinder like this

 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 03:16 PM
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Ok thanks alot! Exactly what im looking for, probly won't be able to get out and look at it till the weekend, supposed to be -25c for the next two days and supposed to warm up to a balmy - 8 this weekend, so will get to it saturday or sunday
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pat420swed
Cool thanks, so from this diagram it looks like there isn't a sensor it's a oil pressure switch? Or does this only show electrical components?
Actually both exist if you just have an idiot light it will be a switch if you have a gauge it will be a sensor both appear the same but are different internally. I have found several instances where the sensor has been replaced with the switch and the gauge sort of worked but erratically.
The diagram shows a switch but the sender will be in the same place.

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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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I don't think it has an idiot light, it does have a gauge tho
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:34 PM
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If your oil gauge actually moved on your old cluster when you reved it up, you have the real sender on your engine, now the cluster you got from the jy, it could be setup to use the switch, what this means for you is that you have to short out the extra resistor on the new cluster to make your sender work.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:51 PM
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Where is this resistor? And this new cluster dosntt have any oil light symbols built into the plastic anywhere but ill look for an extra resistor on the cluster if someone can tell me where it is and what it looks like
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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I know the truck the cluster came from was an 89 7.3 idi and mine is a 88 7.3 idi, does anyone know what years had a real sensor and what years had the idiot light? Or if these two trucks would have that much of a different cluster from each other?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 12:13 AM
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These trucks don't have an idiot light, what Ford did was turn the gauge into an idiot gauge, with a real sender and gauge, the gauge will move when rev'ed up and show higher oil pressure when cold vs warm. With the idiot gauge, when the oil pressure goes over whatever the set psi the switch is at (around 7-10 psi) the switch grounds the wire and the gauge will move into the normal range and never move. Now they had to put the resistor in for the switch so that the gauge wouldn't peg to the max. If you don't remove the resistor (or in this case short it out) and you use the actual sending unit, it will read very low.

This is where the resistor is on the cluster, you will also see two copper points beside the SIG word that is were it would be shorted with solder, now if you don't want to solder it, you can just short out the resistor with some wire wrapped around its legs.

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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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My old cluster has a resister like that in it and the same copper gap on it, it just isn't placed exactly the same as that, still right beside the gauge tho.

I know I said my gauge moved before but that was when I had a bad voltage regulator so I think that was What was causing it to move. I havnt got to pulling my new cluster out yet because it's so damn cold outside.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 03:08 PM
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So it was my battery light resistor I was looking at on my old Custer and the new one has a resistor on the battery light and the oil pressure gauge, my question is if I short out the resistor for my battery light will this turn my battery light off? My old cluster had a resistor on route to the bulb and on the back of the actual bulb,

the new cluster doesn't have a resistor on the back ofthe light but does on the actual cluster, and the old light won't fit in the new cluster so I'm wondering if . Short out the resistor on the new cluster if it will make my light shut off
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Pat - Can you please post a picture of the rear of your cluster? I'll be removing mine and want to get an idea of what I'll be looking at.

ETA: Disregard. Found one.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 12:06 AM
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Do NOT short out the resistor across the battery light, you will cook the voltage regulator for the alternator, if the battery light is bothering you that much and you don't want to or can't fix the issue with the light staying on, you could remove the bulb and the resistor will still turn on the voltage regulator. Your best coarse of action is to fix the fault that's causing the light to be on in the first place.
 
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