'68 F250 460 intake question
#1
'68 F250 460 intake question
I have a 68 camper special....it has a 460 engine that was dealer installed in 68 for a customer in Calif. (the 460 was built in 67 for a Marque I think) it has the cast intake, the cast number on the heads are for a 429, and a Holly carb. Problem is it has a stumble at low acceleration. I want to know what is the best intake combo to use? I am thinking Elderbrock 750 carb but wich intake? the Torquer 2 or the Performer series?....I do not want to lose the drivability of the truck but do pull a trailer once in awhile. The motor has a lot of torque (I pulled the motor mounts off once already) but they could have been old already! Thanks for the feedback.
#3
#4
Lets see now......where to start. A Monaco is a DODGE, and Dodge built a 440, not a 460. In 67, im not sure Dodge even built a 440, i know they built 383, 426, 413 engines.......Im also thinking that a Ford 460 wasnt available in 1968, not even too sure that its predecessor the 429 was around. FE series engines were the norm in 68......
As far as "dealer install" of this motor, likely "urban legend" status.......
As far as "dealer install" of this motor, likely "urban legend" status.......
#5
Lets see now......where to start. A Monaco is a DODGE, and Dodge built a 440, not a 460. In 67, im not sure Dodge even built a 440, i know they built 383, 426, 413 engines.......Im also thinking that a Ford 460 wasnt available in 1968, not even too sure that its predecessor the 429 was around. FE series engines were the norm in 68......
As far as "dealer install" of this motor, likely "urban legend" status.......
As far as "dealer install" of this motor, likely "urban legend" status.......
My 1968 T-Bird a 429
My 1968 Lincoln a 460
#6
I have a 68 camper special....it has a 460 engine that was dealer installed in 68 for a customer in Calif. (the 460 was built in 67 for a Monaco) it has the cast intake, the cast number on the heads are for a 429, and a Holly carb. Problem is it has a stumble at low acceleration. I want to know what is the best intake combo to use? I am thinking Elderbrock 750 carb but wich intake? the Torquer 2 or the Performer series?....I do not want to lose the drivability of the truck but do pull a trailer once in awhile. The motor has a lot of torque (I pulled the motor mounts off once already) but they could have been old already! Thanks for the feedback.
How about a 460 PI intake? I have one of those with a Carb, quite rare but cheap.
If its in a big truck it would depend on other factors but usually a Performer intake would be great depending on cam etc and what use is. Torquer II is a single plane. not good
I also had a very rare 460 PI SK Aluminum Dual Quad intake. Nice PIece
#7
Trending Topics
#8
Lets see now......where to start. A Monaco is a DODGE, and Dodge built a 440, not a 460. In 67, im not sure Dodge even built a 440, i know they built 383, 426, 413 engines.......Im also thinking that a Ford 460 wasnt available in 1968, not even too sure that its predecessor the 429 was around. FE series engines were the norm in 68......
As far as "dealer install" of this motor, likely "urban legend" status.......
As far as "dealer install" of this motor, likely "urban legend" status.......
#9
There are people here who can answer your questions.
How about a 460 PI intake? I have one of those with a Carb, quite rare but cheap.
If its in a big truck it would depend on other factors but usually a Performer intake would be great depending on cam etc and what use is. Torquer II is a single plane. not good
How about a 460 PI intake? I have one of those with a Carb, quite rare but cheap.
If its in a big truck it would depend on other factors but usually a Performer intake would be great depending on cam etc and what use is. Torquer II is a single plane. not good
#10
Marquis would have had a 429 same as big Ford. Lincoln was only car to have 460 in 1968. Slab side Lincolns had unique motor mount and a crank mounted power steering pump, not sure how you would adapt that to a truck. I don't see how a Ford dealer would void the warranty on a new truck just to do an engine swap. Maybe someone did it later on?
#11
They work great up to around 5000 rpm. I am not a big fan of the Edlelbrock carbs, prefer Holley but what ever you can find reasonable. What is list number on choke horn on the Holley carb?
Assuming now you have a 7 bolt valve cover? Are the heads C8VE ?
Is there any documentation on the engine swap? I would be interested in that as at the time a 428 would have been a more direct swap.
In 1978 I ordered a new loaded F150 with a 460 and was going to have a 428 SCJ swapped into it before pickup with the 460 mounted on a pallet in back. It was to be done for 5000.00 which I agreed to at the time. Still have the sales invoice here somewhere it was 7200.00 plus the 5k engine swap. The truck came in but before the engine swap took place the dealer got in some kind of trouble with Ford and deal fell thru. I ended up buying a new Dodge Little Red Express and a low mile 426 Hemi for the swap . . . Thats another story.
Tuning could probably be done to get rid of the stumble. The early 460 had pretty hi comp back then. I had one in a Lincoln rated 365HP & 500TQ A plaque on core support showed that.
Another surprising tidbit is back then the 460 had a crank driven power steering pump. Does the truck have that? Took a special timing cover . . .Very slick for a swap. Dropped one in a 67 Fairlane years ago.
#12
Marquis would have had a 429 same as big Ford. Lincoln was only car to have 460 in 1968. Slab side Lincolns had unique motor mount and a crank mounted power steering pump, not sure how you would adapt that to a truck. I don't see how a Ford dealer would void the warranty on a new truck just to do an engine swap. Maybe someone did it later on?
#13
Sounds like a Edelbrock Performer intake would work great for that combo
They work great up to around 5000 rpm. I am not a big fan of the Edlelbrock carbs, prefer Holley but what ever you can find reasonable. What is list number on choke horn on the Holley carb?
Assuming now you have a 7 bolt valve cover? Are the heads C8VE ?
Is there any documentation on the engine swap? I would be interested in that as at the time a 428 would have been a more direct swap.
In 1978 I ordered a new loaded F150 with a 460 and was going to have a 428 SCJ swapped into it before pickup with the 460 mounted on a pallet in back. It was to be done for 5000.00 which I agreed to at the time. Still have the sales invoice here somewhere it was 7200.00 plus the 5k engine swap. The truck came in but before the engine swap took place the dealer got in some kind of trouble with Ford and deal fell thru. I ended up buying a new Dodge Little Red Express and a low mile 426 Hemi for the swap . . . Thats another story.
Tuning could probably be done to get rid of the stumble. The early 460 had pretty hi comp back then. I had one in a Lincoln rated 365HP & 500TQ A plaque on core support showed that.
Another surprising tidbit is back then the 460 had a crank driven power steering pump. Does the truck have that? Took a special timing cover . . .Very slick for a swap. Dropped one in a 67 Fairlane years ago.
They work great up to around 5000 rpm. I am not a big fan of the Edlelbrock carbs, prefer Holley but what ever you can find reasonable. What is list number on choke horn on the Holley carb?
Assuming now you have a 7 bolt valve cover? Are the heads C8VE ?
Is there any documentation on the engine swap? I would be interested in that as at the time a 428 would have been a more direct swap.
In 1978 I ordered a new loaded F150 with a 460 and was going to have a 428 SCJ swapped into it before pickup with the 460 mounted on a pallet in back. It was to be done for 5000.00 which I agreed to at the time. Still have the sales invoice here somewhere it was 7200.00 plus the 5k engine swap. The truck came in but before the engine swap took place the dealer got in some kind of trouble with Ford and deal fell thru. I ended up buying a new Dodge Little Red Express and a low mile 426 Hemi for the swap . . . Thats another story.
Tuning could probably be done to get rid of the stumble. The early 460 had pretty hi comp back then. I had one in a Lincoln rated 365HP & 500TQ A plaque on core support showed that.
Another surprising tidbit is back then the 460 had a crank driven power steering pump. Does the truck have that? Took a special timing cover . . .Very slick for a swap. Dropped one in a 67 Fairlane years ago.
#14
sounds like a 385 series head.
7 valve cover bolts?
Spin on oil filter no bolt on adaptor.
What is number and date on intake manifold, what carb list number?
A visual glance its hard to tell if a 429 or 460
Pull plug and check stroke
429 has 3.59 stroke (just happens to be same stroke as a 360 Mopar)
460 has 3.85 stroke (thats where the name 385 series comes from the stroke)
#15
Could be either a 429 or 460.
sounds like a 385 series head.
7 valve cover bolts?
Spin on oil filter no bolt on adaptor.
What is number and date on intake manifold, what carb list number?
A visual glance its hard to tell if a 429 or 460
Pull plug and check stroke
429 has 3.59 stroke (just happens to be same stroke as a 360 Mopar)
460 has 3.85 stroke (thats where the name 385 series comes from the stroke)
sounds like a 385 series head.
7 valve cover bolts?
Spin on oil filter no bolt on adaptor.
What is number and date on intake manifold, what carb list number?
A visual glance its hard to tell if a 429 or 460
Pull plug and check stroke
429 has 3.59 stroke (just happens to be same stroke as a 360 Mopar)
460 has 3.85 stroke (thats where the name 385 series comes from the stroke)
second row F4 YM15
round stamping 1
6 3
7 5
the Holly carb numbers above the choke 6R3059B
the heads cast number C8VE with 7 bolt valve covers
the block serial is 8J116049
the PS pump is mounted over the fuel pump with it's own belt running straight to the crank.
spin on oil filter
so what size is the carb? 427,429,or 460 motor? is it a round or square port heads?