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This is a reasonable choice: https://www.holley.com/0-1848-1.asp
The Holley 1848-1 is designed for Ford small-displacement engines. Prices vary, shop around.
The Holley 1848-1 is designed for Ford small-displacement engines. Prices vary, shop around.
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If you do the math, a 500 cfm carb is enough for any 302. The fuel metering is more consistent in the middle of the operating range rather than at the lower end of things. I have had both Holleys and AFBs over the years. Both are fine but I prefer tuning the AFB (Edelbrock) over the Holley. The needles and jets are easier to make small adjustments.
Dan
Dan
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That is a pretty broad statement Dan and only true except in near stock configurations. But it is a good choice for a low RPM (>6000) engine with average volumetric efficiency.
Allan,
Just for info, the Edelbrock AFB style carbs are mechanical secondaries, not vacuum.
Allan,
Just for info, the Edelbrock AFB style carbs are mechanical secondaries, not vacuum.
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That being what you have a 500 CFM carb would be plenty good enough. Like I and some other have said the Carter/Edelbrock/Webber AFB style carbs are user friendly and easy to work on.
Good Luck, welcome to the forum and Merry Christmas.
(on a side note edit your info to include where you are and a first name, it is easier to respond to a name and somebody may be close to you that can help you out if we know where that is, I checked your info and see your in Wa, if you don't want to put your city maybe east or west as they are way differnt)
Good Luck, welcome to the forum and Merry Christmas.
(on a side note edit your info to include where you are and a first name, it is easier to respond to a name and somebody may be close to you that can help you out if we know where that is, I checked your info and see your in Wa, if you don't want to put your city maybe east or west as they are way differnt)
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That is a pretty broad statement Dan and only true except in near stock configurations. But it is a good choice for a low RPM (>6000) engine with average volumetric efficiency.
Allan,
Just for info, the Edelbrock AFB style carbs are mechanical secondaries, not vacuum.
Allan,
Just for info, the Edelbrock AFB style carbs are mechanical secondaries, not vacuum.
I'll stand by the math statement. Here's the way I figure it: A 302 ci engine turning say 7500 rpm would demand 302ci x 7500rpm....divided by 2 because it takes 2 full revolutions for the engine to demand 302 ci of fuel/air mixture
so.... 302ci x 7500/2 = 1,200,000 ci per min Divide that by 1728 cubic inches per cubic foot = 694 cfm.
Now take that number and factor in the volumetric efficiency. If you were able to get 75% you'd be doing great....so 694 cfm x .75 = 520cfm. Also note that as you get to the upper end of the RPM range, the volumetric efficiency will start to drop off due to the friction of the air flow in the intake. I will give in that you'll start to choke off a 302 at around 7000 RPM with that 500 cfm carb.
Given that jw-wa's 302 is in an F1 I'm guessing that he's usually going to be running is somewhere in the lower end of the RPM range.
I have had bigger engines set up with big fat carbs. My experience has been that the larger carbs are a little sloppy at the low end and things clear up in the middle of the RPM range. I put a 500 cfm Edelbrock on my 351w....it is essentially a stock engine with the cam timing set straight up. It idles well and runs clean through my typical driving range. When you get up around 80 mph in an F1 you really start to notice the wind resistance......so I've actually never had it over 6000 rpm. There are certain members here who have joined the F1 century club, but I chickened out....maybe that's a goal for 2014???
Dan
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Are you sure this is an '85, with roller lifters? '85 was a changeover year, first year for rollers, and many models got TBI. If it is, you have a lot to gain by going to a non-smog cam and ignition curve, nothing wild, just not smog-oriented. Probably more to gain there than with a carb switch. Around here there are lots of later 5.0 EFI systems for sale on Craigslist, complete with manifolds and computers, for dirt cheap. Lots involved to changeover, but that's where you'd likely get the best performance and mileage.
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Dan,
Allan is Old Merc an not the person who asked the question, John is the OP who had posted the question.
You said the same thing as I, on a basic stock 302 with average VE a 500 CFM carb is a good choice. I have learned on here that you can never assume anything about what someone is using or doing unless it is posted in writing so i try not to paint with a wide brush.
Have a Merry Christmas.
Allan is Old Merc an not the person who asked the question, John is the OP who had posted the question.
You said the same thing as I, on a basic stock 302 with average VE a 500 CFM carb is a good choice. I have learned on here that you can never assume anything about what someone is using or doing unless it is posted in writing so i try not to paint with a wide brush.
Have a Merry Christmas.
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