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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Speedometer is DOA!

This past Wednesday coming home from work my EX decided to throw her belt at 85 MPH.

After getting pulled off to the side of the road safely, I popped the hood and saw that the water pump pulley had sheered and the belt had wrapped around the water pump.

I had it towed to a guy that is a seasoned 6.0 L mechanic. He gets it all back together and calls me up and asks if my Speedo was working before it was towed to him.

He said the ECU was seeing the MPH but the speedo was not working. After an hour I get a text saying the speedo was working, but stopped again and the ECU was not seeing MPH.

Besides the speed sensor and the obvious possibility that the tow truck guy could have pinched, ripped or some other terrible thing to the wiring harness, is there any certain area I should look at first?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 08:59 AM
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Vss on the rear end maybe. Oops just seen that you already knew about that.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Is the cruise factory or aftermarket?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 12:08 PM
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You can with a the right scan tool look at the VSS output.
I would also get under the rear end and look at the diff and
see if the harness get damaged. The rear sensor goes into
the rear diff from the center. Look for the convoluted plastic
jacket and I bet it been crushed.

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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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What the abs module seeing? A good tech should know
 
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Cheezit could the tow driver of hooked one of the
sensor lines and cause this?

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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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IIRC the sensor wire is attached to the vac hose on the top side as it goes to the frame.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 09:48 PM
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So I got the truck back today. Speedo was is indeed in operable. Needle does sweep when you do a cluster test.

Then it started raining and the Speedo worked for a bit. Then stopped as things dried out.

ABS is all good no issues there. I did not ask and he did not say what the sensors where reading. He did tell me that he monitored the ABS on the test drive.

The transmission Speed Sensor is reading just fine and is sending a signal to the ECU, which in turn is able to be read by my scan gauge.

I am going to climb under the truck tomorrow after taking care of a few errands and see what I can find out about a wiring issue and replace the rear axle speed sensor.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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If the SGII is seeing speed then the problem is between the PCM and
the speedometer. They read from the same place. BTW It's not the in
transmission. It in the rear diff. The transmission does not have a speed
sensor for speed.

One thing you could check is if the plugs on the top of the cluster are
both plugged in and not loose.

Sean
 
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 08:43 AM
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the abs module needs the input from all 3 speed sensors, check and moniter abs pids.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 12:43 PM
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If you do not have a ABS light then the issue is between the PCM and the cluster.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Well just an update.

The speedometer started working again and has been for the last 4 days. I now have an ABS light that comes and goes. I took it up to the local Advance store and it has a code for the left front ABS sensor. I also have what sounds like a bearing rumble. I just replaced the HUB bearings when I did the ball joints. When it warms up this up coming weekend, I will pull the HUB and get a replacement exchange from the parts store.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Thanks for the update.
Good luck with the work and stay warm.
I still have to do a clock spring.

Sean
 
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