Intacke heater question
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
Intacke heater question
Anybody played with the intake heater to help with cold starts? I'm thinking of putting in my older diesel. Because I can't always plug them in, And I know enough people that have burnt diesels up by leaving them plugged in all the time.
How big are they?
How hot can they get?
Can they run as long as a glow plug.
How big are they?
How hot can they get?
Can they run as long as a glow plug.
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 570
Likes: 0
Anybody played with the intake heater to help with clod starts? I'm thinking of putting in my older diesel. Because I can't always plug them in, And I know enough people that have burnt diesels up by leaving them plugged in all the time.
How big are they?
How hot can they get?
Can they run as long as a glow plug.
How big are they?
How hot can they get?
Can they run as long as a glow plug.
Burn a diesel up by leaving them plugged in? explain more
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
The block heater cord can short out and light what ever flammable.
That is why it's a good idea to have a timer, or only plug it in before starting.
Most block heater cords don't have very thick insulation.
That is why it's a good idea to have a timer, or only plug it in before starting.
Most block heater cords don't have very thick insulation.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Fayetteville
The trend here seems to be to disconnect the intake heater and not worry about it. A good working set of glow plugs are all that's needed to get it started in the cold.
I'm not sure how much that small heater can do by itself since it's designed to work with the glow plug system.
If you want to preheat the engine before starting, look into a diesel fired preheater.
Espar - Hydronic MII Coolant Heater - Eberspächer
Here's a link to the ones we use in some of our equipment. The D10, is a 10kW unit and is used in a 8L engine. Heats the engine and the cab up very nicely.
I'm not sure how much that small heater can do by itself since it's designed to work with the glow plug system.
If you want to preheat the engine before starting, look into a diesel fired preheater.
Espar - Hydronic MII Coolant Heater - Eberspächer
Here's a link to the ones we use in some of our equipment. The D10, is a 10kW unit and is used in a 8L engine. Heats the engine and the cab up very nicely.
Post Fiend
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 6,096
Likes: 26
From: Mesa AZ
(The 4.5 liter V6 is different, on that model the two systems do work together...)
To the OP's question....
The Air Intake Heater is not effective enough to start these trucks in cold weather. You would need a heating grid like the Cummins engines have. Those grids would need to be as close to the intake valves as possible so you would need one for each side. Now that billet intake plenums are available, it wouldn't take too much additional effort to fit a grid heater on each bank.
I prefer the grid heater vs glow plug system myself....they seem to work much better in my region. However, the glow plug system works well enough on our 7.3 trucks that we leave them alone. (Why change something that works?)
Our 4.5 liter trucks do NOT like starting up when cold. The glow plug/AIH system is not working for us so we have to leave those trucks plugged in with block heaters. We put them on a timer and we jacketed the block heater cord. If the cord shorts out, then it will blow a fuse on the timer and shut off the power.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Fayetteville
Code:
Originally Posted by powertrain control/electronic diagnosis (PC/ED) manual Manifold Intake Air Heater (MIAH) To reduce white smoke during long idle periods at low ambient temperatures, the PCM will activate the intake air heater. Specific conditions must be present before the heater is activated: ambient temperature must be below 0°C (32°F) engine oil temperature (EOT) must be below 55°C (131°F) vehicle power (IVPWR) must be between 11.8 and 15.0 volts parking brake must be applied on manual transmission vehicles the transmission must be in PARK or NEUTRAL on automatic transmission vehicles glow plugs must be off
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 0
The trend here seems to be to disconnect the intake heater and not worry about it. A good working set of glow plugs are all that's needed to get it started in the cold.
I'm not sure how much that small heater can do by itself since it's designed to work with the glow plug system.
If you want to preheat the engine before starting, look into a diesel fired preheater.
Espar - Hydronic MII Coolant Heater - Eberspächer
Here's a link to the ones we use in some of our equipment. The D10, is a 10kW unit and is used in a 8L engine. Heats the engine and the cab up very nicely.
I'm not sure how much that small heater can do by itself since it's designed to work with the glow plug system.
If you want to preheat the engine before starting, look into a diesel fired preheater.
Espar - Hydronic MII Coolant Heater - Eberspächer
Here's a link to the ones we use in some of our equipment. The D10, is a 10kW unit and is used in a 8L engine. Heats the engine and the cab up very nicely.
I was looking at hook the heater up with the glow plugs to help with starting, my old truck is a little short on compression when it's cold
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Sniveler90
6.4L Power Stroke Diesel
37
Jan 15, 2019 03:44 PM
johnnynegaunee
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
12
Jan 9, 2006 05:46 AM
