#2 diesel
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#2 diesel
We switched to #2 fuel last month. All I know about the fuel change is an anti-gel additive going into #2. Maybe something else? I'm using the gray diesel kleen already. Your thoughts on using any additional or different additives for #2 diesel? No problems with the fuel change, or with anything else, at 210k miles.
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what do the call fuel up there during the rest of the year?
diesel fuel #2 fuel oil. during the winter the refineries here will put some kerosene and anti-gel in it and sell it as winter blend.
diesel fuel #2 fuel oil. during the winter the refineries here will put some kerosene and anti-gel in it and sell it as winter blend.
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Thanks, Tom. I know the refineries here make the #2 as well, but I didn't know kerosene was in there. I suppose that makes sense. When it comes to which fuel you get, there's no choices. With that in mind, I'm trusting a refinery not to put something more corrosive into my truck. #2 is also about 60 cents more a gallon.
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^^ Yep, switch to the white bottle of DK. And use a station that sells a good volume of diesel so you are not buying old fuel. It doesn't hurt to talk to the station manager about what additives are in the fuel also.
And don't let your tank go below 1/2 tank if you can. That will minimize the possibility of condensation.
And don't let your tank go below 1/2 tank if you can. That will minimize the possibility of condensation.
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Some quick internet research will give me what goes into Diesel #2, but aside from content, I'm looking for what (if anything) this stuff is doing to my pickup. I want to counter it before it is an issue. You folks here have insight and ideas I would NEVER get from a dealership or Google!
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I thought #2 was regular diesel and #1 was the lighter stuff that doesn't gel up as easy? Or do I have it backward.
The station that I used to go to back in Illinois had the pumps setup so you could pick #1, #2 or various blends of them. I think it was 25/75, 50/50 and 75/25 or just straight #1 or #2. I just always used the #2.
Now I where I fill up they just have diesel with no choices.
I've never had a problem with gelling, but it doesn't get as cold here as it does where you are.
The station that I used to go to back in Illinois had the pumps setup so you could pick #1, #2 or various blends of them. I think it was 25/75, 50/50 and 75/25 or just straight #1 or #2. I just always used the #2.
Now I where I fill up they just have diesel with no choices.
I've never had a problem with gelling, but it doesn't get as cold here as it does where you are.
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Around here, I see #2 sold in the summer, and #1 sold (more) in the winter, but my analysis is hardly scientific. I try to run #2 whenever possible, as I understand that it has a slightly higher heat value = better mileage. Often, #2 is only sold a truck stops in my neck of the woods. My truck is not a DD, so I can't say whether #2 or #1 is more prone to cold weather problems.
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gelled fuel in the can this morning
FYI...
-15 degrees at 1AM this morning when the power went out, -50 degrees with the wind chill. In western PA, it doesn't get below 10 degrees very often.
Anyway, the kerosene turbo heater needed some juice, so I grabbed my blue can and headed to the station in hopes they had power. When I got there, I realized I had a little diesel left in the can. It was winter pump diesel, only about 10 days old. Since there was only about a cup or two in there and I was too cold to fiddle with getting it in the truck, I just dumped it on the grass.
It was very cloudy, and had the viscosity of that light syrup they put in fruit cups.
My wife often questions the need for anti gel seeing as how the local stations all say they have winter formula fuel. But the pump fuel around here is apparently not formulated for temps this cold. I was sooo glad I had anti gel in the tank this morning.
-15 degrees at 1AM this morning when the power went out, -50 degrees with the wind chill. In western PA, it doesn't get below 10 degrees very often.
Anyway, the kerosene turbo heater needed some juice, so I grabbed my blue can and headed to the station in hopes they had power. When I got there, I realized I had a little diesel left in the can. It was winter pump diesel, only about 10 days old. Since there was only about a cup or two in there and I was too cold to fiddle with getting it in the truck, I just dumped it on the grass.
It was very cloudy, and had the viscosity of that light syrup they put in fruit cups.
My wife often questions the need for anti gel seeing as how the local stations all say they have winter formula fuel. But the pump fuel around here is apparently not formulated for temps this cold. I was sooo glad I had anti gel in the tank this morning.
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I only know of diesel and kerosene. Kerosene is mixed like Tom said in the winter with diesel so it doesn't gel. It can still gel, just needs to get a little colder. There were some trucks around here that did suffer that problem earlier this week.