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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 02:14 AM
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Its staying the same size it is now with 33s
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 04:52 AM
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Well my dad has put mine through almost 30 years of abuse from hard wheeling it to hauling oversized unsafe loads to daily driving to heavy duty snow plowing to bull dozing dirt with a plow and its never let us down. Granted we would rebuild it ever fall before snow though but yeah always been a great setup for us. Ride quality was a lot better than a solid axle in my opinion. We've run a bump over stock tires and 33s and at one point a small lift. Only complaint is alignment is tough to keep in spec and it likes to eat ball joints. Other than that it's nice and tough if you perform your basic periodic maintenance on it. I actually prefer it over a solid axle in some circumstances.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 05:33 AM
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Most of my wheeling is at the beach in soft sand and the periodic drive through a muddy cow, horse or hay pasture. I love the way mine rides its smoother than and 3/4 or 1 ton 2wd truck I've ever owned
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 75Three90
Most of my wheeling is at the beach in soft sand and the periodic drive through a muddy cow, horse or hay pasture. I love the way mine rides its smoother than and 3/4 or 1 ton 2wd truck I've ever owned
Oh you will have no issue with it then.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 12:55 PM
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A good friend of mine replaced his 74 Highboy with an 86 F250 4x4 that he bought brand new, and drove for 200,000 miles........while the 74 was better on the really boulder strewn trails, day to day on off camber, rutted out roads, the 86 maintained traction when the highboy didnt. the TTB/leaf spring combo kept all four tires on the ground. At that same time period, i had an 86 Ranger, then an 88 Ranger, both 4x4......I wheeled the hell outta the 86, even though it was stock with P205/75/15 tires. i had a Ramsey Rep6000 on it, and it spent a LOT of time up in the Sierra, including on the approach trails of the Fordyce.......It wheeled GREAT......they are tough on front tires, and the guys who run huge tires on them often break stuff. Keep in mind that many of the guys who run really big tires and spend a lot of time hardcore wheeling break a lot of parts, including solid axle Dana 44 fronts
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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Nothing Special hit the nail on the head. While the coil sprung TTBs offer the ride of a modern IFS design with the strength of a solid axle, the leaf sprung variants ride terrible on and off road.

I don't know what the engineers at Ford were thinking when they designed it. Anyone with a general idea of how leaf springs work can figure out that the arc the axle beams travel in will force the leaf spring and associated hardware to twist. The spring rates are increased exponentially during suspension travel due to the springs and spring mounts twisting throughout the arc the beams travel in. This severely limits suspension travel.

On road the leaf sprung TTB works ok at best, off-road it works less then adequate.

I've thought about installing spherical bushings in the leaf springs and shackles to eliminate the stress the axle beam arcs subject the suspension to, but they are very pricey.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iggybob44
....the 86 maintained traction when the highboy didnt. the TTB/leaf spring combo kept all four tires on the ground....
I had an '85 F-250 4wd with TTB and leaf springs. That truck flexed like crazy, and could hardly be made to lift a tire. But it wasn't the front suspension that flexed, it was mostly the trucks frame. The bed and cab lines could easily be mis-matched by 6" when the truck was flexed. And it darn near beat you to death when the front wheels hit rocks.

I'll stand by what I said earlier, the TTB/leaf combo is stout enough for most uses, but it's stiff by (poor) design. If you don't mind the ride, stick with it, it's fine. I have the setup again now in my '97 F-250 crew cab. I have no plans to replace it. For on-road use (all I plan to do with this truck) and with a 460 sitting on top of the front end the ride's not bad enough to be worth the effort and expense of a swap to me.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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As I said before, I don't know why everyone has such issue with it. It's always been good to me and provided a very smooth ride.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Like I have said before but apparently my comments get over looked cause I don't agree. Mine rides better than any 2wd f250 or 350 I've ever owned
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by slashfan7964
As I said before, I don't know why everyone has such issue with it. It's always been good to me and provided a very smooth ride.
I believe that Nothing Special and myself have thoroughly explained why. Simple physics proves the leaf sprung TTB was a poor decision.

Originally Posted by 75Three90
Like I have said before but apparently my comments get over looked cause I don't agree. Mine rides better than any 2wd f250 or 350 I've ever owned
There was something seriously wrong with the 2wd F250s you drove then. Can't comment on the 2wd 1 tons.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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Trust me my trucks may have looked like hell but they were in tip top shape and my leaf spring ttb rides and handles better than all my 2wd 3/4 tons. Gas an diesel.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 75Three90
Trust me my trucks may have looked like hell but they were in tip top shape and my leaf spring ttb rides and handles better than all my 2wd 3/4 tons. Gas an diesel.
I haven't been in a 2WD 3/4 ton so I can't comment.
 
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