Does this mean I need a front hub?
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Laughing Gas
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Does this mean I need a front hub?
Does this mean I need a front hub?
if so I have been following the Front Bearing Assembly thread and will get the ebay one
or is that just a bearing I can buy?
if so I have been following the Front Bearing Assembly thread and will get the ebay one
or is that just a bearing I can buy?
Lead Driver
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I think that's just the dust shield. Like many have posted, both of mine are out like that. There is another grease seal next to the bearing inside there and this one keeps the dust, dirt, and water out. If there is no movement, the bearing/hub is ok. It's a considerable amount of work to replace the $6 seal and it will be out again sooner than you would expect.
Fleet Mechanic
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That looks like the axle to knuckle seal.
Does the wheel have any play in it?
Jack the truck up and place on jack stands at the axle tube. With the wheel still on, check for play by grabbing the wheel at the top and bottom and push/pull and generally jerk it around and see if there is any clunking.
If there is no play then you may only need to replace the knuckle seal.
Edit: After looking at this a little more, there is a small bearing in there that the axle rides on that could be bad. This little bearing is incorporated in the hub/bearing assembly. The hub/bearing assembly may need to be replaced.
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Does the wheel have any play in it?
Jack the truck up and place on jack stands at the axle tube. With the wheel still on, check for play by grabbing the wheel at the top and bottom and push/pull and generally jerk it around and see if there is any clunking.
If there is no play then you may only need to replace the knuckle seal.
Edit: After looking at this a little more, there is a small bearing in there that the axle rides on that could be bad. This little bearing is incorporated in the hub/bearing assembly. The hub/bearing assembly may need to be replaced.
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Strokin Okie
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Here is the dust seal from my previous F250, but I believe my current truck's seals have popped out as well. Yours almost looks like the new style seal. Is it metal or plastic?
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - Shaneb75's Album: 2006 F250 CC FX4 - Picture
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - Shaneb75's Album: 2006 F250 CC FX4 - Picture
Hotshot
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That looks like the axle to knuckle seal.
Does the wheel have any play in it?
Jack the truck up and place on jack stands at the axle tube. With the wheel still on, check for play by grabbing the wheel at the top and bottom and push/pull and generally jerk it around and see if there is any clunking.
If there is no play then you may only need to replace the knuckle seal.
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Does the wheel have any play in it?
Jack the truck up and place on jack stands at the axle tube. With the wheel still on, check for play by grabbing the wheel at the top and bottom and push/pull and generally jerk it around and see if there is any clunking.
If there is no play then you may only need to replace the knuckle seal.
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Replace that Seal its the spendy Knuckle seal you need a SEAL INSTALL TOOL
And get that Dust SHeild RUSTY is Talking about to
Hotshot
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Might as well Put a Serviable Ball Joint in there Since you have to Pull t apart and you will Basicaly Be there
I used MooG BJ
But If you can GeT FORD SERVICABLE BALL JOINT GREASE ZERTS That would Be IDEAL
I would do A Ball Joint and ALL 4 SEALS that side Minimum
I used MooG BJ
But If you can GeT FORD SERVICABLE BALL JOINT GREASE ZERTS That would Be IDEAL
I would do A Ball Joint and ALL 4 SEALS that side Minimum
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Laughing Gas
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There is no play when moving the wheel but there is play in the shaft. Had to wiggle it around a bit to out the auto lock hub back in.
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Laughing Gas
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Here is the dust seal from my previous F250, but I believe my current truck's seals have popped out as well. Yours almost looks like the new style seal. Is it metal or plastic?
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Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - Shaneb75's Album: 2006 F250 CC FX4 - Picture
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Laughing Gas
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I was hoping I could get away with some simple bearings, looks like I'm headed to a hub assy and dust seals. We'll see what my next check says I want to go w/ new ball joints. As it stands I spent $1k this month in parts, fluids ect.
Hotshot
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Right that Knuckle Seal Helps the Axel Shaft Centered That and the HUB and Unit bearing
The Knuckle seal has Bearings in It
Its Spendy and MUST be Installed with a Proper Tool
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Laughing Gas
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Cool I'll price it out when I get home.
I have a friend I haven't talked to in while who's a former Ford diesel mech. Quit in '09 I think, I'll see if he still has the tool.
I have a friend I haven't talked to in while who's a former Ford diesel mech. Quit in '09 I think, I'll see if he still has the tool.
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Laughing Gas
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You would happen to have a part number would you. Started looking for on phone but it's proving to be a bit difficult.
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Laughing Gas
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Took a little work but I found part numbers:
going through Dana's Ford Catalog (pg 22 on)
which also reference Dana's General Catalog (pg 64 actual, pg70 PDF, Complete Assy #2002694)
50381 Shaft seal Diff Side 1.31" shaft (I needed that too) this is the old style still works though. AC3Z-1S175-A (BRS-170) is the new style.
50491 Shaft seal Wheel Side 1.50" shaft (fka 54520 according to catalog)
41784-2 O-ring
47766 thrust washer
Found all for 29.86 +shiping @ Drivetrain America
I found them while searching this problem earlier today
going through Dana's Ford Catalog (pg 22 on)
which also reference Dana's General Catalog (pg 64 actual, pg70 PDF, Complete Assy #2002694)
50381 Shaft seal Diff Side 1.31" shaft (I needed that too) this is the old style still works though. AC3Z-1S175-A (BRS-170) is the new style.
50491 Shaft seal Wheel Side 1.50" shaft (fka 54520 according to catalog)
41784-2 O-ring
47766 thrust washer
Found all for 29.86 +shiping @ Drivetrain America
I found them while searching this problem earlier today
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Laughing Gas
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From: Portal, AZ