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They are my brother and nephew who drive more than 300 miles each way to help me. All I had to do was pointing fingers and hand them the tools
. I still have the back ache at the end of the day, so I figure they had it worse than me
. I still have the back ache at the end of the day, so I figure they had it worse than me
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You guys are amazing... thank you! And keep it coming. Reading the experiences and stories on here is really making a difference for me.
I had said on the first page that getting out there and driving a BUNCH of trucks was important because you could find GREAT 6.0s and CRAPPY 7.3s... what I was missing in that statement was the maintenance records. That makes sense.
After reading here and on the 6.0 forum the early quote that the 6.0 was less forgiving makes a bit more sense. They're more dependent on their maintenance schedule to prevent failure and wear.
How critical is taking a sensor system to a test drive with you? I mean... if I don't have one and am looking at spending $14k on a truck is it worth dropping $500 on a quality ODBII reader just to check out the truck? I suppose I would use it on the Explorer and possibly eventually on engine management for the Mustang.
Hmmm... more tools! Yay!!
After reading here and on the 6.0 forum the early quote that the 6.0 was less forgiving makes a bit more sense. They're more dependent on their maintenance schedule to prevent failure and wear.
How critical is taking a sensor system to a test drive with you? I mean... if I don't have one and am looking at spending $14k on a truck is it worth dropping $500 on a quality ODBII reader just to check out the truck? I suppose I would use it on the Explorer and possibly eventually on engine management for the Mustang.
Hmmm... more tools! Yay!!
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How critical is taking a sensor system to a test drive with you? I mean... if I don't have one and am looking at spending $14k on a truck is it worth dropping $500 on a quality ODBII reader just to check out the truck? I suppose I would use it on the Explorer and possibly eventually on engine management for the Mustang.
Hmmm... more tools! Yay!!
Hmmm... more tools! Yay!!
For gas engine, there isn't much to worries about just put cheap gas in and drive
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From: Parker, CO
How critical is taking a sensor system to a test drive with you? I mean... if I don't have one and am looking at spending $14k on a truck is it worth dropping $500 on a quality ODBII reader just to check out the truck? I suppose I would use it on the Explorer and possibly eventually on engine management for the Mustang.
Hmmm... more tools! Yay!!
I've had some of the typical diesel issues (nothing real big) and I own an AE. If something comes up with a diesel Ex (I'm focusing on diesels because I have one), you have two options. Start replacing things with your best guess or go to the dealership and have them plug it in and diagnose. Two diagnostic visits and you've paid for an auto enginuity setup. That was my justification for it and its been quite useful since I bought it.
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From: Parker, CO
Oh here's another thought. Don't focus on diesel fuel being more expensive by the gallon. Work out your MPG for a v10 and a diesel and I think you'll find that, when looking ONLY at fuel costs, diesels are cheaper. I don't know what a 7.3 gets to the gallon but the 6.0 has the v10 beat in terms of MPG, by a lot. Of course after you factor in how much a diesel oil change costs and that you have to do the 6.0 twice a year, you might change your mind.
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I love this thread, it's all over the place.... So here's my .02
If your on a budget get a V10...Gas mileage poor but very reliable.
If you can spend a little more get the 7.3... Only buy if you like the commercial on TV with the slowsky's
If you can spend a little more buy a 6.0... Count on budgeting 4-5k for bulletproofing.
If it gets anymore confusing, look at dodge and Chevy
If your on a budget get a V10...Gas mileage poor but very reliable.
If you can spend a little more get the 7.3... Only buy if you like the commercial on TV with the slowsky's
If you can spend a little more buy a 6.0... Count on budgeting 4-5k for bulletproofing.
If it gets anymore confusing, look at dodge and Chevy
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One other tip that hasn't been mentioned is the fact that IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THE PLUNGE, the 6.0's reputation can be used to your favor BIG TIME when negotiating price.
IMO only, it's mandatory to have the scanguage or equivalent scanner. If all's in order (FICM voltage, Oil/coolant temps, etc) then you can piecemeal your upgrades whenever you want. I'd hate for you to find the truck of your dreams only to find out that it's sporting 42V to the FICM and you're going to have replace it in 500 miles on the side of the road. Again, use it to your advantage. If the FICM voltage is low, tell the seller (dealer or individual) that the replacement part is $800 from Ford. Then go buy the $300 programmed one.
IMO only, it's mandatory to have the scanguage or equivalent scanner. If all's in order (FICM voltage, Oil/coolant temps, etc) then you can piecemeal your upgrades whenever you want. I'd hate for you to find the truck of your dreams only to find out that it's sporting 42V to the FICM and you're going to have replace it in 500 miles on the side of the road. Again, use it to your advantage. If the FICM voltage is low, tell the seller (dealer or individual) that the replacement part is $800 from Ford. Then go buy the $300 programmed one.
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I have the scan gauge 2, V10, like it, but recently wanted another one for my V10 Motorhome. I found the Ultragauge, $60 a little less intuitive but I really like it better compared to my scangauge. My off topic contribution.
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From: Parker, CO
One other tip that hasn't been mentioned is the fact that IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THE PLUNGE, the 6.0's reputation can be used to your favor BIG TIME when negotiating price.
IMO only, it's mandatory to have the scanguage or equivalent scanner. If all's in order (FICM voltage, Oil/coolant temps, etc) then you can piecemeal your upgrades whenever you want. I'd hate for you to find the truck of your dreams only to find out that it's sporting 42V to the FICM and you're going to have replace it in 500 miles on the side of the road. Again, use it to your advantage. If the FICM voltage is low, tell the seller (dealer or individual) that the replacement part is $800 from Ford. Then go buy the $300 programmed one.
IMO only, it's mandatory to have the scanguage or equivalent scanner. If all's in order (FICM voltage, Oil/coolant temps, etc) then you can piecemeal your upgrades whenever you want. I'd hate for you to find the truck of your dreams only to find out that it's sporting 42V to the FICM and you're going to have replace it in 500 miles on the side of the road. Again, use it to your advantage. If the FICM voltage is low, tell the seller (dealer or individual) that the replacement part is $800 from Ford. Then go buy the $300 programmed one.
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From: Parker, CO
I don't get all the requirements about bullet proofing a 6.0. I'll bet 99.9% of the 6.0s on the road are bone stock and doing fine. All this advice about budgeting $5k for bullet proofing a newly purchased 6.0 is pretty misleading if you ask me.