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OK. The fuel bowl was pulled and cleaned and put back in. The small leak is gone and when I turned the truck to the wait to start position the fuel pump ran and filled the fuel bowl up very quickly.
The wait to start light was on for 12 Mississippi's and then went out. I then went and touched the manifold where the glow plug is located and it was warmer than the other parts of the manifold.
I have both batteries hooked up to charger's and the engine cranks over really good and they are strong.
I looked around and found the 2 wires that could be crossed as they were the same plug and they were correct. I only disconnected one of them when I did the turbo rebuild.
I also disconnected the driver side valve cover connection and bent the wires over to look at the under side and nothing is broken or exposed. It was clipped in tight and I reinstalled it.
I disconnected the ICP like someone said and it still didn't start. I checked the connection and the plug did have some oil in it and I will have to replace that as well.
When it is turning over it sounds like it wants to start with in every rotation but just wont light off. I'm at a loss and about to pull everything apart again. Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Crazyotto1
The wait to start light was on for 12 Mississippi's and then went out. I then went and touched the manifold where the glow plug is located and it was warmer than the other parts of the manifold.
I have both batteries hooked up to charger's and the engine cranks over really good and they are strong.
I looked around and found the 2 wires that could be crossed as they were the same plug and they were correct. I only disconnected one of them when I did the turbo rebuild.
I also disconnected the driver side valve cover connection and bent the wires over to look at the under side and nothing is broken or exposed. It was clipped in tight and I reinstalled it.
I disconnected the ICP like someone said and it still didn't start. I checked the connection and the plug did have some oil in it and I will have to replace that as well.
When it is turning over it sounds like it wants to start with in every rotation but just wont light off. I'm at a loss and about to pull everything apart again. Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Crazyotto1
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Any smoke out the tail pipe? That would indicate fuel or not. Is there a chance that the manifolds are hot because of the cranking and compression and not the GPs? Have you actually verified power on the GP side of the solenoid? I had a similar situation one time where it would crank over like that. It was the solenoid.
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I will check the solenoid tomorrow evening after work. I just washed up for the evening and will test the solenoid with a test light. All I do is ground the test light and put the light lead on the side that would energize when the ignition switch is turned on and the wait to start light is illuminated? I didn't see smoke but also haven't been looking for it. Most of my focus was on the front of the truck.
The manifold I was touching was the y pipe where the glow plug goes into there.
Thanks for the help,
Crazyotto1
The manifold I was touching was the y pipe where the glow plug goes into there.
Thanks for the help,
Crazyotto1
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First throw that test light on the post with the boot cover.. Make sure you have 12v getting to relay.
Yes ground the test light on the battery.. Put light probe on the gpr post that has no boot cover.
First cold start of the day can leave gp's hot for up to 2 mins.
If the 12v light doesn't burn, use screwdriver or big wire like mentioned above to jump from post with boot cover to uncovered post for a minute.
It will spark so be ready. LOL This will energize those gp's for sure for a test.
Yes ground the test light on the battery.. Put light probe on the gpr post that has no boot cover.
First cold start of the day can leave gp's hot for up to 2 mins.
If the 12v light doesn't burn, use screwdriver or big wire like mentioned above to jump from post with boot cover to uncovered post for a minute.
It will spark so be ready. LOL This will energize those gp's for sure for a test.
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I'm still pretty new to the truck, i bought the truck about 8 months ago and then spent about 5 months oveseas where the wife drove it to the dump and back while i was deployed. I've been home about a month now and parked the truck for about a week to do the intake, exhaust and turbo wheel upgrade. In that time the weather turned cold. I'm not sure if there is a plug on it, do they all have one? If so where would it be? If it does i will be plugging it in to help out.
I will test the solenoid when i return from work tomorrow.
Thanks for the replies,
Crazyotto1
I will test the solenoid when i return from work tomorrow.
Thanks for the replies,
Crazyotto1
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Y pipe ? Glow plugs are under the valve covers. A test light will be ok but a multi meter would be better so you can see actual voltage. It would be easier if you had someone cycle the key for you so you dont have to hurry to get to the solenoid.
I think you would have noticed to smelled the smoke by now if there was any.
I think you would have noticed to smelled the smoke by now if there was any.
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There is a plug it is in the bottom grill hole. They are usually hard to find but it is there. If you cannot find it follow it from the oil filter. My buddy told me his didn't have one I had to dig it out for him. That would easily diagnose your problem if it started after plugging in.
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OK, Making progress, I indeed do have a plug on my truck, Thanks for pointing that out. I just plugged it in and will try it tomorrow when I get home from work. That will give me a full 24 hours with it plugged in. What does plugging it in do exactly? Does it charge the batteries and heat the oil and glow plugs?
I checked the solenoid with the test light and I have 12 volt power to the covered cable. Since I'm by myself (on 5 acres) I left the light grounded to the battery negative terminal and switched the key to the wait to start setting and ran around and touched the other big terminal end and nothing. I tried it a couple of times and got no illumination from the light. Just to be sure I found a u bolt the size of the distance between the terminals and held it with a set of insulated pliers and touched the 2 terminals together. Wow! what a spark show. LOL Scared me enough to just buy a new solenoid. I will try to hit autozone tonight after bowling. I will hook it up tomorrow after work to see if the combo between the truck being plugged in and the new solenoid fixes my problem.
Thanks for all the help,
Crazyotto1
I checked the solenoid with the test light and I have 12 volt power to the covered cable. Since I'm by myself (on 5 acres) I left the light grounded to the battery negative terminal and switched the key to the wait to start setting and ran around and touched the other big terminal end and nothing. I tried it a couple of times and got no illumination from the light. Just to be sure I found a u bolt the size of the distance between the terminals and held it with a set of insulated pliers and touched the 2 terminals together. Wow! what a spark show. LOL Scared me enough to just buy a new solenoid. I will try to hit autozone tonight after bowling. I will hook it up tomorrow after work to see if the combo between the truck being plugged in and the new solenoid fixes my problem.
Thanks for all the help,
Crazyotto1
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You can bypass the solenoid, but using pliers or a screwdriver and touching both big posts on the solenoid. I count for about 10 sec before i stop and close the hood and fire it up. I only did this a short time as money was tight during winter.
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OK, Making progress, I indeed do have a plug on my truck, Thanks for pointing that out. I just plugged it in and will try it tomorrow when I get home from work. That will give me a full 24 hours with it plugged in. What does plugging it in do exactly? Does it charge the batteries and heat the oil and glow plugs?
I checked the solenoid with the test light and I have 12 volt power to the covered cable. Since I'm by myself (on 5 acres) I left the light grounded to the battery negative terminal and switched the key to the wait to start setting and ran around and touched the other big terminal end and nothing. I tried it a couple of times and got no illumination from the light. Just to be sure I found a u bolt the size of the distance between the terminals and held it with a set of insulated pliers and touched the 2 terminals together. Wow! what a spark show. LOL Scared me enough to just buy a new solenoid. I will try to hit autozone tonight after bowling. I will hook it up tomorrow after work to see if the combo between the truck being plugged in and the new solenoid fixes my problem.
Thanks for all the help,
Crazyotto1
I checked the solenoid with the test light and I have 12 volt power to the covered cable. Since I'm by myself (on 5 acres) I left the light grounded to the battery negative terminal and switched the key to the wait to start setting and ran around and touched the other big terminal end and nothing. I tried it a couple of times and got no illumination from the light. Just to be sure I found a u bolt the size of the distance between the terminals and held it with a set of insulated pliers and touched the 2 terminals together. Wow! what a spark show. LOL Scared me enough to just buy a new solenoid. I will try to hit autozone tonight after bowling. I will hook it up tomorrow after work to see if the combo between the truck being plugged in and the new solenoid fixes my problem.
Thanks for all the help,
Crazyotto1
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After bowling i read mankypro's response that 24 hours was probably too long to have hooked up so I threw some shoes and a coat on and ran outside in the 21 degree weather......the thing started so easy it wasn't even funny. Thanks guys! This site is the best! I bought a new solenoid and will throw it in tomorrow after work to try it all again. I will be giving out some thanks to all of you.
Awesome!
Thanks,
Crazyotto
Awesome!
Thanks,
Crazyotto
