Here is a good link to something my mom sent me. It's clean I cut it out of my email and pasted it to Word.

You will probably have to download it to read it, if you prefer email me and I will forward it.


http://www.lcsone.com/democrats!.doc

 

Tee Hee.... Good read...

 

It proves what we have been saying about the political lies polarizing the country.

 

WOW! Written very well.The dems basically do not have anything to offer and have to resort to lies and distortions.This has been going on as long as i have been following politics.This is why i am a republican.Thanks for the read.

 

The most frightening aspect of the report is that so many people actually believe the 'Monster' description of the current administration. Every day I hear irrational objections to Bush - things that defy explanation. People come to me, worried about things the Democrats have published, asking me if it is true, and how can Bush get away with it. I do not usually preach politics, but am finding it necessary to do so now because of the ridiculous claims being made by the Democrats. I read all that I hear of, then have to spend a few hours each day on the net, researching claims and in almost every case, disproving them. Never before have I heard so much unmitigated drivel coming from the mouths of persons who really should know better.

I think that the Democrats are depending on a section of the population who do not usually vote - the none thinkers who because of lack of education, believe anything told them by persons they perceive as their 'betters'. This strategy could possibly work, as the serious thinkers tend to ignore the ramblings of a powerless Democrat party. If the Democrats take enough effort to propagate such misleading information, the slow, stupid or uneducated would have the message reinforced in their minds, thus enforcing the horror of this Republican terror mounting in the imaginations of the Democrats.

As I said, frightening.

Theo

 

Look, I'm a registered Democrat, so I have to ask myself the question, "am I proud of the Democratic Party as it stands today?" The answer is no. The best I can say is that the party appears adrift without a rudder. I've listened to those Dems currently running for President, and none of them impress me. So don't think for one second that I'm just gonna stand up and always support the Democratic party. But fair is FAIR. Take this essay and replace "Democrat" with "Republican," and replace "liberal" with "conservative." It still holds true. I'm sick and tired of one political party standing up and saying they're morally superior to the other, and pointing out all the terrible things the "other guys" say about them. The accusers are just as guilty of the same thing. Politicians are politicians- please DO NOT insult my intelligence by trying to tell me that the conservatives are only here to save America form the evils of Liberalism. They are here to promote their agenda, to maintain their power, and they will do anything it takes to accomplish their goals. Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal- when it comes to being honest with the American public, there really isn't any difference anymore. If you still believe that the Republicans are God's chosen political party, then give me a call- I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to show ya.

 

You guys are just so full of contradictions, thinking people can't follow you. I've watched the Democrats fully support late term abortion and stand a midnight vigil while the state of Texas tries to execute a triple murderer. What is that about?

You change the rules to fit whatever you are doing at the time. The above contradiction seems to say that life isn't worth squat until the fetus is borne, but a person that kills a pregnant mother is charged with murdering two people. What?

Don't try to explain.

 

The best thing for America and both parties would be term limits for each office/branch and a limit on the total number of years serving the federal legislature. Then add a Value Added Tax and the elimination of the whole tax code.

America would be America again and the trillions of debt would end up being resolved. If any of our founding fathers were alive, like Thomas Jefferson, they might be tempted to cut out their own hearts in grief and disbelief.

Both parties are full of hot air at times, that is why soon the majority of registered voters will be independents.

 

I am a conservative first, Republican second.
I do not care to "get along" with the likes of Daschle, Kennedy, and the rest of the liberal Democrats who have virtually nothing to say that I agree with. Why would I want to get along with them??? That would mean somebody would have to compromise their principles. Do you think THEY are going to ? No way.
So that means I'd have to. Nope..not gonna happen.
I am content to disagree with them on most every issue of public debate.
I do not expect everybody to get along and agree, it'll never happen.

I thought the piece was well written and dead on.

In my opinon, the Democrats - perhaps more accurately: the Liberals - are not adrift without a rudder, they appear to be in a rotten old boat, without a Captain, have no idea which direction to the beach, the boat is sinking, a storm is brewing, and nobody has a bucket to bail with.

 

Thats a good way to put it! I am a Conservative my self. I love watching Scarborough Country on Msnbc at 10pmest Eastern time. Is anyone else here a fan of Mr. Scarborough?

 

Well said BrianA.

Everytime I hear the word compromise or "informed citizens will agree that X+Y=A" The line in the sand gets a little wider. My resolve and convictions become tempered.

"I am deeply concerned..."

 

I just read the article. Well, most of it anyway, it was too damn boring to read the whole thing.

Here comes a shocker, I agree with 1956MarkII. It would seem to me that 2 years ago, when the Dems were in power, you could have simply changed Dem to Rep, one scandal to another, and that whole article would have rang pretty true.

There are even those here on this board that still insist on blaming every negative aspect of the US on Clinton and the Dems, as though they are somehow all powerful, years after the fact.

It seems pretty simple to me - whichever party is in power is going to be protrayed in the worst possible light by the party that isn't. It's been going on for a few hundred years, you'd think people would catch on. It's not limited to the US either, it goes on here as well, though not to the same degree.

Here's a point of view from someone outside, who's neither Rep or Dem. It's simply based on my observations of the media, and the interactions on this board.

I think the two party system is at fault for the current division in US politics. It draws a line in the sand, you either one of them or one of us. It leads to an intense competition, and even a hatred of one another. Eventually it is the extreme element of both sides that garners the most press, and pushes the hardest in terms of policy.

Now, I am certainly not going to tell you that the Canadian system is superior, because in many ways, it isn't. I just want to point out that we don't have the polarization of the population that exists in the states. The Liberal party faithful don't despise the Progressive Conservatives, the Alliance Party doesn't despise the New Democratic Party. You can ask people on the street if they're liberal or conservative in their views, and what they think of the other side, and you won't get harsh, angry responses. I may be naive, but in my experience, people in general will identify those that are the problem, usually certain cabinet ministers (congressmen/senators) and focus on them as the problem, not on "liberals" or "conservatives" as a whole.

People tend to vote based on issues rather than down party lines. There is a lot of party switching in Canadian elections, and very few people are registered with a political party.

I think this might also be in part due to the general "Canadian" attitude of indifference as well though. Especially in the west, but that's a whole other rant.

I certainly don't mean to offend here, I'm just trying to add something to the discussion from a different point of view.

Waxy

 

No offense taken.

My opinions and ramblings, not to offend either.

Yes, long artical but good reading. The political landscape in American politics today is an eye opener. The polarization of american politics is good in my opinion. Time to get away from wishy-washy politics and get down to where the rubber meets the road. Let's get it all out into the open and let the people choose with whom they will stand. The democratic canditates for president are saying that they need to show the american people how different they are than the republicans. Good, I want to know exactaly their positions on issues. If anybody is out of touch with the main stream, it's these people.

In my view, it's the liberal left wing of the democratic party who's making the most noise. During the Clinton scandals many republican leaders and consertives couldn't figure out why Clinton remained some what popular during the impeachment trials. I think it's because the democratic party portrayed Clinton as a victim of the republican party. Shift blame to the prosecutor and the republicans in the senate. The dems in D.C. stood united behind him. It worked. But the democratic party is now paying the price. Because what ever people thought of Clinton's policies, he was still a liar and person who thought of his own policital survival first above all else. The dems still portray Clinton as a victim. Problem with that is, as a victim they, and he, can say he was not responsible for his failures but it was the consertives who were at fault. The american people are buying it.

People want accountibility. This president knows what that means. This president also knows he too will be held accountable and is not afraid to put his creditability on the line and not make excuses. This president serves the public, not his own personal agena. Bush knows that the dems are going to be held accountable too, by the american people. The obstructionism that going on in the nations capital is being seen by all. We will see come election day who is going to be called into account and who is going to take responsibility for their actions, or try to blame the other party.

What ever the liberals think of president Bush, he's still a popular president. I guess that would mean the majority of americans agree with him on most issues and trust his leadership. So far president Bush seems to be a stand up guy and the left wing liberals are trying to bring him down anyway they can. It seems their efforts are failing so they resort to more extream retoric. They just can't stand his popularity and see themselves as being not heard by the american public so they shout even louder. But we do hear and I guess most don't agree or believe what they are saying.

The republicans in Washington and consertives in america are standing behind this president much like the way the liberal dems' stood behind Clinton. But the republicans are doing it for all the right reasons. They stand behind this president not to defend him, but do so in support of him and his policies. Consertives might not fully agree with everything Bush is doing, but they admire his honesty and accountibilty. And while the liberals try to descredit Bush as being dishonest, they hurt themselves all the more. Consertives are not holding up president Bush as a victim, they don't have to, but as a leader and the majority of the american public likes what they see.

The liberal dems are victims of their own retoric. Then they try to they defend themselves with even more. All the consertives have to do is stand by and watch them commit political suicide.

 

Let me preface this by stating that I'm a fiscal conservative, which means I think our current administratiion is following the prior administration in attempting to cushion our economic freefall using federal tax dollars to subsidize the public. To me, that's the same as buying votes. I don't support the democrats or economic policies of the current administration. They're all politicians; democrat, republican or independent, and that means they're in it for their own agenda. If you lose sight of that, you become a prime candidate for whatever spin any particular party happens to be putting on their stated direction and all any politician desires is to remain or get into a position of power. Sorry, office.

Some people seem to have forgotten how close the last presidential election actually was on the popular vote side. Almost 50/50 by party lines. This forum has, by the nature of the forum subjects/hobby, a large base of conservative posters. Still, when push comes to shove, the country is equally split on political preferences. Incumbents always get the lion's share of press coverage, popularity polls being subjected to yes, no or no opinion of whomever happens to be in office.

This country has gone through, and is going through, enormous changes in our economic structure, tax revenue base and, because of those two issues, social structure. It all started long before Daddy Bush, Clinton or our standing president and has nothing to do with our political views, foreign policy or the supreme court. What it is doing is dividing the country into a have and have-not population. That's the reason we're seeing blurred lines in the definitions of republican and democrat. People are searching for a John Wayne to remedy the situation because they're concerned about what's going on with people losing their jobs forever, war, terrorists and not seeing any solutions to those problems.

The good news, for politicians and supporters of the current administration, is that on a historical basis incumbents win elections when we're facing serious challenges. A downside is that I don't think Wayne Newton was a good choice to head the USO shows. I'm an old man and that made me know we're in trouble.

 

I am independent with Republican leanings, but I have voted Democrat when the candidate seemed to be the best candidate. I agree that with different names and different details, that article could easily be applied to Republicans. Neither party has clean hands, I often vote the lesser of two evils. I did enjoy the reasoned out explanation of what the demos are up to and why they are so bombastic. It seemed to summarize my thoughts on left wing politics very nicely. I didn't feel the article was totally positive on the Republican side either, there were some issues that were raised that are on the darkside. I rarely see a well reasoned out liberal article of similar nature, just a lot of mud slinging. Could just be my reading sources, but then most of the news I read is from liberal rags so I would hope they could put their own story in a better light.

I forwarded the article to several of my friends including some flaming left wing liberals, and boy did I get some flaming caustic replies. Funny seems like only the flaming liberals are the ones who make insulting remarks about candidates and see ***** in every corner. All I ever heard from the right wing was about the fat horny hillbilly, but it never got so demonic as left wing news.

I had a good time with the article, it sure got some people to rise to the bait.

Just my comments,

Jim Henderson