Okay, it's cold
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Wellington, Co
Okay, it's cold
I guess I should pay more attention to the cold start threads! Mine started, barely. Not happy, fuel pressure fluctuated around 35-40, now at 10 idling.
Been running 30 minutes, sounds better but that's not saying much this morning. Oh, and -13 right now.
I thought I had enough white bottle, guess not. Assuming it survives, what do you cold weather guys do beside plug it in? No room in the garage, but I guess I can put a heat lamp under the ? Heater? My cold learning curve has started!
Been running 30 minutes, sounds better but that's not saying much this morning. Oh, and -13 right now.
I thought I had enough white bottle, guess not. Assuming it survives, what do you cold weather guys do beside plug it in? No room in the garage, but I guess I can put a heat lamp under the ? Heater? My cold learning curve has started!
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From: Hampton, Maryland.
That would be my guess. Do you have access to a torpedo heater?
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Wellington, Co
That would be my guess. Do you have access to a torpedo heater?
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Not right now, but about to make a Wally run for 911 and more white bottle DK. Thanks for the cold start link, maybe I can convince my wife I need injectors!!
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I am impressed you got it started in -13 degrees without the block heater. 
Original specs from Ford says these engines have "worry free starting in temps down to -10 without external aid". I'd say your truck is doing pretty well still....
Original specs from Ford says these engines have "worry free starting in temps down to -10 without external aid". I'd say your truck is doing pretty well still....
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-19 with the wind chill this morning. it was plugged in last night but hasn't been started for about a week. Hit the remote starter and she fired right up. Cranked a little slow but she started on the first try. I do love the ol' girl
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From: Jasper, Mn
When I was at home for break last winter, new glow plugs and new batteries left me worry free, and of course #1 diesel.
This winter out here at school I plug mine in any time we are looking at 20's or below. I also have put a trickle charger on overnight to keep my batteries fully charged.
Usually I wouldn't do this, but I think my starter and also maybe my alternator are on the way out. And about a month ago a dome light got left on overnight in 5 degree weather, the old girl wasn't happy the next morning
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Also, I've got about 5k on my oil, which is 15-40 non synthetic, which is also a little low. Seems simple, but definitely double check oil, I've noticed harder starts as mine gets lower
. I know its bad for it to be low, but I want to change injector o-rings before I change oil.
Last night on the way home from work it was cold enough, both air temp and engine temp that the skinny pedal would cause white "coal".
I feel sorry for the 2 mile commutes my truck has been supporting me through this semester. Winter break will result in some TLC for her.
This winter out here at school I plug mine in any time we are looking at 20's or below. I also have put a trickle charger on overnight to keep my batteries fully charged.
Usually I wouldn't do this, but I think my starter and also maybe my alternator are on the way out. And about a month ago a dome light got left on overnight in 5 degree weather, the old girl wasn't happy the next morning
. Also, I've got about 5k on my oil, which is 15-40 non synthetic, which is also a little low. Seems simple, but definitely double check oil, I've noticed harder starts as mine gets lower
. I know its bad for it to be low, but I want to change injector o-rings before I change oil.Last night on the way home from work it was cold enough, both air temp and engine temp that the skinny pedal would cause white "coal".
I feel sorry for the 2 mile commutes my truck has been supporting me through this semester. Winter break will result in some TLC for her.
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From: Bend Oregon
Mine gelled this morning. I started her to let her warm up while I fed thehorses and I could hear the low pressure fuel knock when I came around thecorner of the house. I ripped off my gloves so I could get the bed cover openand grab my bottle of 911 and dumped the whole thing in the tank with theengine still running. She smoothed out considerable after a minute or 2 so Ithought all was good. Grabbed the kids and threw them in the truck, we made itabout 200 yards before she started missing and limping. She is back in thedrive way now running on high idle so maybe the 911 takes a while do its thingcompletely. -10 hurts.
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From: Wheatland, Mo
Mine gelled this morning. I started her to let her warm up while I fed thehorses and I could hear the low pressure fuel knock when I came around thecorner of the house. I ripped off my gloves so I could get the bed cover openand grab my bottle of 911 and dumped the whole thing in the tank with theengine still running. She smoothed out considerable after a minute or 2 so Ithought all was good. Grabbed the kids and threw them in the truck, we made itabout 200 yards before she started missing and limping. She is back in thedrive way now running on high idle so maybe the 911 takes a while do its thingcompletely. -10 hurts.
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From: Mesa AZ
Mine gelled this morning. I started her to let her warm up while I fed thehorses and I could hear the low pressure fuel knock when I came around thecorner of the house. I ripped off my gloves so I could get the bed cover openand grab my bottle of 911 and dumped the whole thing in the tank with theengine still running. She smoothed out considerable after a minute or 2 so Ithought all was good. Grabbed the kids and threw them in the truck, we made itabout 200 yards before she started missing and limping. She is back in thedrive way now running on high idle so maybe the 911 takes a while do its thingcompletely. -10 hurts.
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fficeffice" /><o></o>I presume the reason for the mixing chamber is to allow warm fuel to mix with the cold fuel stored in the tank and reduce the change of the fuel gelling on the way to the front of the vehicle. I think that is the the main idea behind the fuel bowl heater....not to heat the fuel going to the heads but to heat the fuel being returned to the tank.
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From: Wellington, Co
I did have it plugged in all night. Probably the only reason it started at all. Also running Rot 5-40 syn. Poured 911 in tank, changed inline filter (globs of jelly coming out) fired up like nothing happened. I knew I had a problem when I first turned key on this morning and fuel psi was bouncing around 35-45. Back to 65 now. 911 is awesome, but bought plenty of white bottle also. Not going through this again. Has me thinking of wrapping the fuel line with electric water pipe heat cable.
Thanks for all the comments.
Thanks for all the comments.
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From: Bend Oregon
Out of curiosity, are you still running the OEM style mixing chamber in the tank pickup assembly or did you delete that out in favor of the Hutch Mod?
I presume the reason for the mixing chamber is to allow warm fuel to mix with the cold fuel stored in the tank and reduce the change of the fuel gelling on the way to the front of the vehicle. I think that is the the main idea behind the fuel bowl heater....not to heat the fuel going to the heads but to heat the fuel being returned to the tank.
I presume the reason for the mixing chamber is to allow warm fuel to mix with the cold fuel stored in the tank and reduce the change of the fuel gelling on the way to the front of the vehicle. I think that is the the main idea behind the fuel bowl heater....not to heat the fuel going to the heads but to heat the fuel being returned to the tank.
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From: Bend Oregon
I did have it plugged in all night. Probably the only reason it started at all. Also running Rot 5-40 syn. Poured 911 in tank, changed inline filter (globs of jelly coming out) fired up like nothing happened. I knew I had a problem when I first turned key on this morning and fuel psi was bouncing around 35-45. Back to 65 now. 911 is awesome, but bought plenty of white bottle also. Not going through this again. Has me thinking of wrapping the fuel line with electric water pipe heat cable.
Thanks for all the comments.
Thanks for all the comments.