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Found a great deal on the Edge Insight CTS on Thoroughbred. I've been thinking about getting one for a while now and now might be the time.
Here's my issue, I want to run 3 ISSPRO gauges in conjunction with the CTS because I like the looks. Was thinking about doing Fuel Press, EGT and Tranny temp.
What all is needed to get the most out of the CTS? It comes with the $130 expandable EGT cable for free. Also, does the CTS use actual sensors to monitor everything or is it all retrieved from the computer? Cause I'd hate to have 50 different sensors drilled into various spots of my engine bay just for running analog gauges for cool factor. I'm sure I'll have more questions but thanks for the help in advance!
Here's my issue, I want to run 3 ISSPRO gauges in conjunction with the CTS because I like the looks. Was thinking about doing Fuel Press, EGT and Tranny temp.
What all is needed to get the most out of the CTS? It comes with the $130 expandable EGT cable for free. Also, does the CTS use actual sensors to monitor everything or is it all retrieved from the computer? Cause I'd hate to have 50 different sensors drilled into various spots of my engine bay just for running analog gauges for cool factor. I'm sure I'll have more questions but thanks for the help in advance!
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Okay, so what all am I going to be able to see with the pressure add on cable? And doesn't the expandable starter kit have the EGT probe?
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Yeah it's the EAS expandable EGT with the starter kit.
I guess I'm kind of confused on the rest of the add ons. So with the pressure, temperature and universal sensor add ons you can only monitor 1 of the things that it lists that you can monitor, and if you want to monitor more you have to buy more sensors..? I'm confused as ****.
I guess I'm kind of confused on the rest of the add ons. So with the pressure, temperature and universal sensor add ons you can only monitor 1 of the things that it lists that you can monitor, and if you want to monitor more you have to buy more sensors..? I'm confused as ****.
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OK you are wondering how many add ons you can add to one CTS. Looks like you can only add one. I would add which ever one you want to monitor and then add stand alone gauges for the rest.
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You Don't want to Have a Stand Alone gauge for Anything the PCM Already Reads
I see it ALL the Time Folks add a Standalone gauge for something the PCM already has and its just about Pointless cause in Reality all you have Is a Gauge to Monitor another Gauge AND If it has a Problem The ADD-On gauge don't really mean Squat Cause that's NOT what the PCM is using to Calibrate the Truck
So I probably Confused you even More
I would recommend to Get your Edge CTS if that what you want get it See whats Missing then Add Gauges that CTS don't have
You would have 2 TFT senders/Gauges and the 1 you ADD would be Pointless
I see it ALL the Time Folks add a Standalone gauge for something the PCM already has and its just about Pointless cause in Reality all you have Is a Gauge to Monitor another Gauge AND If it has a Problem The ADD-On gauge don't really mean Squat Cause that's NOT what the PCM is using to Calibrate the Truck
So I probably Confused you even More
I would recommend to Get your Edge CTS if that what you want get it See whats Missing then Add Gauges that CTS don't have
You would have 2 TFT senders/Gauges and the 1 you ADD would be Pointless
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Hey All my Buddies that trucks look like a F-16 Fighter Jet Cockpit they cant tell me what All the gauges mean
I guess they Look Cool going down the road But Get RAPED when it Breaks down cause even with all that Crap they have NO Idea
When I don't care about "COOL" I want to see a Problem and be able to fix it
I guess they Look Cool going down the road But Get RAPED when it Breaks down cause even with all that Crap they have NO Idea
When I don't care about "COOL" I want to see a Problem and be able to fix it
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What I'm lost on is it says you can attach the temperature add on, the pressure add on etc to the "universal sensor input" add on. But if I were to get the temp and pressure add ons, I could only monitor 1 more temperature and pressure parameter for those add ons right? The rest would have to be stand a lone gauges yes? Or can you only attach say just the pressure or just the temperature add on, not both?
Originally what I planned on was the insight, then with the EGT probe it comes with doing it on the passenger side manifold, then doing ISSPRO EGT gauge on the driver side manifold, ISSPRO fuel pressure gauge, and 1 more that's to be determined but for some reason this time around looking at it all it's a lot more confusing. Losing IQ as time goes by I guess.
Originally what I planned on was the insight, then with the EGT probe it comes with doing it on the passenger side manifold, then doing ISSPRO EGT gauge on the driver side manifold, ISSPRO fuel pressure gauge, and 1 more that's to be determined but for some reason this time around looking at it all it's a lot more confusing. Losing IQ as time goes by I guess.
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What I'm lost on is it says you can attach the temperature add on, the pressure add on etc to the "universal sensor input" add on. But if I were to get the temp and pressure add ons, I could only monitor 1 more temperature and pressure parameter for those add ons right? The rest would have to be stand a lone gauges yes? Or can you only attach say just the pressure or just the temperature add on, not both?
Originally what I planned on was the insight, then with the EGT probe it comes with doing it on the passenger side manifold, then doing ISSPRO EGT gauge on the driver side manifold, ISSPRO fuel pressure gauge, and 1 more that's to be determined but for some reason this time around looking at it all it's a lot more confusing. Losing IQ as time goes by I guess.
Originally what I planned on was the insight, then with the EGT probe it comes with doing it on the passenger side manifold, then doing ISSPRO EGT gauge on the driver side manifold, ISSPRO fuel pressure gauge, and 1 more that's to be determined but for some reason this time around looking at it all it's a lot more confusing. Losing IQ as time goes by I guess.
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What I'm lost on is it says you can attach the temperature add on, the pressure add on etc to the "universal sensor input" add on. But if I were to get the temp and pressure add ons, I could only monitor 1 more temperature and pressure parameter for those add ons right? The rest would have to be stand a lone gauges yes? Or can you only attach say just the pressure or just the temperature add on, not both?
Originally what I planned on was the insight, then with the EGT probe it comes with doing it on the passenger side manifold, then doing ISSPRO EGT gauge on the driver side manifold, ISSPRO fuel pressure gauge, and 1 more that's to be determined but for some reason this time around looking at it all it's a lot more confusing. Losing IQ as time goes by I guess.
Originally what I planned on was the insight, then with the EGT probe it comes with doing it on the passenger side manifold, then doing ISSPRO EGT gauge on the driver side manifold, ISSPRO fuel pressure gauge, and 1 more that's to be determined but for some reason this time around looking at it all it's a lot more confusing. Losing IQ as time goes by I guess.
I see well in theory you could Toggle switch as many Temp/Pressure gauges into the CTS as you wanted
Personaly I wouldn't do 2 EGT Gauges Just 1 Post Turbo so you can see Both Banks
People mostly use that EGT Gauge cause they think to Hot will Burn up the Turbo when that's not common. Im not saying it Cant happen just Unlikely IMO there would be More turbo failures coming thru here if the turboes was Burning up
IMO To really use an EGT Gauge would be Looking for Over Fuel/Under fuel Condition under a Set Senereo
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Js, yeah that's what I was thinking but I guess I'll just do one post turbo like blade recommended and I'll just use the one that comes with the starter kit on the insight.
I'd rather not run *** loads of toggle switches to monitor stuff, just trying to keep it simple. Will the insight be able to get enough info from the PCM to troubleshoot common problems, help diagnose a no start condition, diagnose possible injector failures, turbo related issues and ICP and IPR values, just common 6.0 issues or am I wasting my time with the insight?
I'd rather not run *** loads of toggle switches to monitor stuff, just trying to keep it simple. Will the insight be able to get enough info from the PCM to troubleshoot common problems, help diagnose a no start condition, diagnose possible injector failures, turbo related issues and ICP and IPR values, just common 6.0 issues or am I wasting my time with the insight?
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Js, yeah that's what I was thinking but I guess I'll just do one post turbo like blade recommended and I'll just use the one that comes with the starter kit on the insight.
I'd rather not run *** loads of toggle switches to monitor stuff, just trying to keep it simple. Will the insight be able to get enough info from the PCM to troubleshoot common problems, help diagnose a no start condition, diagnose possible injector failures, turbo related issues and ICP and IPR values, just common 6.0 issues or am I wasting my time with the insight?
I'd rather not run *** loads of toggle switches to monitor stuff, just trying to keep it simple. Will the insight be able to get enough info from the PCM to troubleshoot common problems, help diagnose a no start condition, diagnose possible injector failures, turbo related issues and ICP and IPR values, just common 6.0 issues or am I wasting my time with the insight?