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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Edge just added some gauges so they are Better Now

You can also Google ScangaugeII and DashBoss for gauges

SGII is Cheaper but does a Good job with Live data BUT No ADD ON gauges all you see is OEM Sensor and gauges its Just Basic
and omnly 150 bucks Mines paid for itself 10 times Over my truck broke and I was able to Fix with the SGII

DashBoss is Probably better then Edge and has the Add On EGT and Fuel press or anything like that

search the forum for a thread called Forscan IIRC its Cheap and did a good job from what I gather Its like a 20-30 buck setup that's comparable to SGII
 
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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
DashBoss is Probably better then Edge and has the Add On EGT and Fuel press or anything like that
We are working/ testing a Contribution Balance Test...

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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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I think what I'll probably end up doing is like what blade said earlier, get the Insight and then add analog gauges to monitor what the Edge can't.
That being said, if I run a analog fuel pressure gauge, is there any other pressures that the Edge can't get off the PCM that would be worth getting the $115 pressure add on, or should I get the sensors, or temperatures add on?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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We are working/ testing a Contribution Balance Test...

Josh

Are you testing it for them
 
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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Are you testing it for them
Yeah, slow process.

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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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so do you unplug an Inject to introduce a Fault??
 
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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
so do you unplug an Inject to introduce a Fault??
Works the same as AE. Cold start and graph the injection events. I guess I should call it "Power Balance Test"

Cannot turn off injectors though. Just graph the events.

DashBoss can do a Power Balance/ Contribution now for Duramax. Ours shouldn't be too far behind.

I found out my #1 and #7 injectors are sketchy on cold start so I am planning on polishing the spools soon.

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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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SO its looking at the Crank sensor then???

IDK how AE Does it

Just how the PCM sees things in order to set a DTC so IIRC that's using the Crank sensor Not CMP Sensor for contrib
 
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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
SO its looking at the Crank sensor then???

IDK how AE Does it

Just how the PCM sees things in order to set a DTC so IIRC that's using the Crank sensor Not CMP Sensor for contrib
I'm not really sure. DashBoss is emulating AE for the test.

You load the 8 injector PIDs during KOEO, start recording and then start the engine and let it idle however long you wish. Save the file and then you can view the line graph.

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Originally Posted by FordTruckEnthusaist
I think what I'll probably end up doing is like what blade said earlier, get the Insight and then add analog gauges to monitor what the Edge can't.
That being said, if I run a analog fuel pressure gauge, is there any other pressures that the Edge can't get off the PCM that would be worth getting the $115 pressure add on, or should I get the sensors, or temperatures add on?
I'm not familiar with the Edge unit but it may help you to know all the vehicles sensors are available through the OBDII port. With the proper device you can "see" everything EXCEPT low side oil pressure, coolant system pressure, fuel pressure, and exhaust gas temp. There are no factory sensors on the truck for those values. Installing a gauge for those would also require installing a sensor to drive the gauge.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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Awesome thanks rusty. That was one of my questions good to know the edge can get the sensors via PCM. Looks like I'll get the insight with the expandable EGT and starter kit cable and I'll probably get the ISSPRO fuel pressure later on and 2 other ISSPRO gauges not sure what yet. And maybe eventually do the edge pressure add on and do coolant psi or something on it. Anything y'all can think of id need the temperature add on that the PCM can't get?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 09:13 AM
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That's a hell of a deal they have going on. You can buy the Edge pressure sensor (part # 98607) for your fuel pressure and add it on. It's on sale too.

Then you'd have all the OBD sensors plus EGT & fuel psi in one package for $475. That's a steal.

Just have to get the metric to 1/8" adapter for the fuel port and whatever ya need to install the EGT. (depends where you put it)
 
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Originally Posted by Money-Pit
That's a hell of a deal they have going on. You can buy the Edge pressure sensor (part # 98607) for your fuel pressure and add it on. It's on sale too. Then you'd have all the OBD sensors plus EGT & fuel psi in one package for $475. That's a steal. Just have to get the metric to 1/8" adapter for the fuel port and whatever ya need to install the EGT. (depends where you put it)
Yeah I may go ahead and buy the pressure sensors and use it for coolant PSI cause over 16 PSI will point to head gaskets right? I wanna do the 4 gauge pod with the cts on the bottom and 3 analog gauges so I'll probably do my fuel pressure in there. Should I get the temperature one?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 10:53 AM
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I wouldn't worry about any additional temp gauges. Like Rusty said, LPO, Fuel Pressure, EGT, coolant pressure are things that will not report through the OBD2.
If you are not tuned, I would go fuel pressure first, then EGT, then LPO, and coolant pressure last( puking is normally a good sign of HG failure).
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 11:02 AM
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I am in stock tuning, everything is stock except for IPR delete coolant filter BPD radiator and 4" turbo back. I do have big plans for the truck in the coming year or two. Like 175cc injectors, upgraded fuel system, Barder or MTW turbo with custom SCT tunes so the gauges will really be the first steps of getting the truck ready for the power. Is there anything else specific that I would want to look at closer with lots of upgrades like I have planned? Or just do fuel pressure, LPO and I guess coolant PSI for my analogs?
 
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