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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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not trying to be a dick, but what do you armchair recovery experts recommend the driver use on the rear of his super duty to connect the strap to? its not like we have factory to hooks in the back. also to my understanding it is not recommended to pull heavy loads from the front tow hooks in reverse as the ring and pinion gears are not designed for that kind of load.


now me personally i see no problems with this recovery. no excessive "snatching" or slack is seen. no crazy running starts or wheel spin. the superduty driver is not using his towing hitch ball to connect the strap too (seen that done in person alot) the hummer driver is using a front tow hook instead of looping the strap around the steering tie rods ( seen that done in person too) and also i have seen these "monster hooks" in person they do not seem to be a joke there a chunk of steel. and last but not least, i have pulled many stuck full size trucks with trailers hooked up buried to there axles in sand (sand duner) out using my 20' recovery strap stuck in my 2" receiver with the pin through the sewed loop on the strap with no ill affect, i have also seen everyone, there brother, there mother, there sister, hell even the dog use the rear 2" hitch on there trucks with a recovery strap to unstuck vehicles.

Also that hummer was nowhere near rolling over in that mud hole. the superduty was pulling strait or a little to the passenger side, which would be pulling the hummer away from the the point of rolling over. also when doing a "snatching" recovery like that you need the stuck vehicle to apply some forward traction so as its being "snatched" forward it has the chance to gain ANY traction it will help the superduty pull the stuck hummer out.

none the less, good stuck, and good recovery. we all do dumb things when were young, bet the hummer driver wont do that again.
Because using a hitch or a hook would become a flying projectile if it broke. I've heard of a hitch ball breaking and gawkers potentially hurt. Just use the pin to attach the loop of the ****** rope, and not any other hitch device.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tact
Because using a hitch or a hook would become a flying projectile if it broke. I've heard of a hitch ball breaking and gawkers potentially hurt. Just use the pin to attach the loop of the ****** rope, and not any other hitch device.
Now that's a good idea!
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 01:38 PM
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How Exactly do you do that? My 1" rope can't be looped thru the reciever to just use the pin. Then when the pin bends, how do you get it out? The recovery hooks used on class 8 trucks are the same size as the one shown in the video. I had a payloader ****** my loaded bigrig useing just one of those hooks. It is also retain in the frame by a 5/8" pin. You also have to keep in mind that a rope or strap provides a cussion. If they were useing a chain, I would be a bit more concerned.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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How Exactly do you do that? My 1" rope can't be looped thru the reciever to just use the pin. Then when the pin bends, how do you get it out? The recovery hooks used on class 8 trucks are the same size as the one shown in the video. I had a payloader ****** my loaded bigrig useing just one of those hooks. It is also retain in the frame by a 5/8" pin. You also have to keep in mind that a rope or strap provides a cussion. If they were useing a chain, I would be a bit more concerned.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tact
Because using a hitch or a hook would become a flying projectile if it broke. I've heard of a hitch ball breaking and gawkers potentially hurt. Just use the pin to attach the loop of the ****** rope, and not any other hitch device.
i did not say to use the ball at a attachment point, i stated that ive seen it done and id a bad idea!

but hooking the strap to the vehicle using the pin in the hitch or a hook or d ring adapter in the hitch is a purfectley fine point of attachment.

i don't care if you have the strap hooked up using just the pin on the hitch a hook or d ring adapter, you always run the risk of a failure.... that's just how it is... if that fact cannot be accepted then then you should not off road or get your vehicle in a position where it need recovering.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OldBlackCat
i did not say to use the ball at a attachment point, i stated that ive seen it done and id a bad idea!

but hooking the strap to the vehicle using the pin in the hitch or a hook or d ring adapter in the hitch is a purfectley fine point of attachment.

i don't care if you have the strap hooked up using just the pin on the hitch a hook or d ring adapter, you always run the risk of a failure.... that's just how it is... if that fact cannot be accepted then then you should not off road or get your vehicle in a position where it need recovering.
You stated:

not trying to be a dick, but what do you armchair recovery experts recommend the driver use on the rear of his super duty to connect the strap to? its not like we have factory to hooks in the back. also to my understanding it is not recommended to pull heavy loads from the front tow hooks in reverse as the ring and pinion gears are not designed for that kind of load.

....and I gave you an option......to use the pin in the receiver. I never stated you advised to use the ball in the receiver. I stated that using a ball or a hook, which is what the driver used in the video, was not a good idea. There was a better option IMO....a pin.

I think we are somewhat stating the same thing except I wouldn't use a hook if I had a choice.

BTW....why would you refer to us as "armchair recovery experts"? We are merely giving our opinions here.
 
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