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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:42 AM
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Cold start issue....do I still have a GPR problem?

Couple of weeks ago I changed my GPR because it died. I changed it with a new GPR I bought from my local dealership. It fixed the issue immediately.

As of last week, my truck has not had a normal cold start up. When it cranks it stumbles for the first couple of seconds then runs fine. It also has a brief puff of white smoke upon start up, then clears up.

Testing the GPR, it reads 12.3 on the battery side, and after I turn the key to ON, the GP side reads 11.2. Is this drop acceptable or do I have another GPR issue? All connections appear to be tight.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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I think that is acceptable. How many miles are on your truck?

You said you get a little puff, then a stumble, then everything is good. Meaning it runs fine, you don't have to plug her in, she has good power even running cold, etc?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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I think that is acceptable. How many miles are on your truck?

You said you get a little puff, then a stumble, then everything is good. Meaning it runs fine, you don't have to plug her in, she has good power even running cold, etc?
Truck has 103K miles. After she kicks off there is a short burst of white smoke out of the tail pipe, stumbles a second, and then she runs smooth.

It's been somewhat cold this last week, but nothing too bad, maybe mid to upper 30's. Today when I started it the temp was 51*. So no need to plug her in yet. And yes, seems to run fine when cold.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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I think you are good. Are you using 15w-40?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:54 AM
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I think you are good. Are you using 15w-40?
Yep.....that was my next question. I run Rotella 15w40. Maybe an oil issue with the injectors being somewhat weaker with age and mileage?

I changed my oil about a month ago, and what my mechanic advised was to add about two quarts of Lucas oil treatment to the oil. I took his advise and I did. I've never added an additive to my oil in the past.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 07:57 AM
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No, with it being cold, the oil is obviously thicker on start up. What you are experiencing is called the "romps". If you go to synthetic 5w-40 you should see a reduction in that stumbling effect. How long have you owned the truck?
 
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Have you checked all of your glow plugs?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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No, with it being cold, the oil is obviously thicker on start up. What you are experiencing is called the "romps". If you go to synthetic 5w-40 you should see a reduction in that stumbling effect. How long have you owned the truck?
Since new....2003.
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Have you checked all of your glow plugs?
Last I had them checked was about a month ago trying to troubleshoot my ICP, which I replaced, they were fine.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Tact
Since new....2003.

Last I had them checked was about a month ago trying to troubleshoot my ICP, which I replaced, they were fine.
I don't think anything is wrong with the GP's. You did your due diligence on them not long ago, and while they could have since bit the bullet, after all, they are mechanical and will eventually fail, I doubt that enough of them have gone bad in the last 2 months to cause an issue.

I am guessing this is the first time you have noticed the romps then? I have an '03 and I am in Maryland just outside of Baltimore, where it isn't Canada cold, but it gets down in the 20's at night several times a year and we can occasionally see a 0 degree night or two. I have owned my truck since it had 64,000 miles, I believe, and by my first winter it had mid 70,000's probably. It always did what you are saying yours is doing when I was using 15w-40 oil and it got down in the 30's or colder for several hours overnight. If it clears up and runs good after a few seconds, I wouldn't be too concerned.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Whatever you do get that Lucas OUT of your engine. It's hard on injectors and not necessary.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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Whatever you do get that Lucas OUT of your engine. It's hard on injectors and not necessary.
I was hesitant on putting this additive in my oil, but I never really heard anything bad about Lucas at the time and thought my mechanic made a good suggestion. So I figured it couldn't hurt.

I wonder if this might be my issue with its starting issue?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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It could be. Your 12.3/11.2 numbers sounds about right. Lucas, especially two quarts can definitely cause cold start stumbling/romping.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by schlepprock250
It could be. Your 12.3/11.2 numbers sounds about right. Lucas, especially two quarts can definitely cause cold start stumbling/romping.
I think you may be correct. I just read on back of the jug that for Ford Powerstroke engines to us their synthetic stabilizer oil treatment. Damn.....I hope I haven't hurt anything.

I guess I need to change the filter as well? Also, do I need to rush out and change it immediately or can I wait till the next oil change? I bet I don't have three hundred miles on the last change.
 
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I would get it out. I am not familiar with the down side of Lucas but if their own bottle says not o use the product you did, I wouldn't wait. I just spent $1400 on new ( remanufactured) injectors, $100 or so for an oil change is waaay better than that.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 10:15 AM
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I think you may be correct. I just read on back of the jug that for Ford Powerstroke engines to us their synthetic stabilizer oil treatment. Damn.....I hope I haven't hurt anything.

I guess I need to change the filter as well? Also, do I need to rush out and change it immediately or can I wait till the next oil change? I bet I don't have three hundred miles on the last change.
I don't think you've hurt anything. Yet. I do however think you should plan an oil change very soon. The filter may or may not need to be changed. It's up to you. In my opinion, it's a $20 decision.
Also, it's probably worth switching to 5w40, at least for the colder months. It might help with the cold-start stumble.
I had cold start romps last year with a fully functioning GP system. I switched to 5w40 synthetic, and it solved my issues. I run it full time now. Some people switch back and forth 15w40 / 5w40 depending on the season in an effort to save some cash.

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I would get it out. I am not familiar with the down side of Lucas but if their own bottle says not o use the product you did, I wouldn't wait. I just spent $1400 on new ( remanufactured) injectors, $100 or so for an oil change is waaay better than that.
Yup. I agree. $100 isn't a big deal if you consider the possible alternatives.
 
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