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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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Running hot

On my 83 f150 5.8 4x4 the factory gauge runs hot. It was running fine until I had a leak in the hose that runs to the temperature sender, and it was very low on antifreeze. I replaced the hose and anti freeze and now it shows that it's running hot. The temperature sensor and sender have been replaced and the coolant flushed. Would the truck running low on antifreeze for a short time have damaged something gauge,sender, or sensor related? I've taken off the radiator cap with the motor running and have established the water pump is working. The top hose is hot and the bottom is cooler. Any ideas?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 11:15 PM
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You can't bank on the gauges on these trucks. I burned one engine up because they said everything was fine, and I chased an overheating problem that didn't exist because the gauge said it was running hot. Most of us put an aftermarket temp gauge on just to know for sure what is happening. But, you could use an infrared thermometer to test.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 12:25 AM
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You can't bank on the gauges on these trucks. I burned one engine up because they said everything was fine, and I chased an overheating problem that didn't exist because the gauge said it was running hot. Most of us put an aftermarket temp gauge on just to know for sure what is happening. But, you could use an infrared thermometer to test.
I have an aftermarket gauge currently but it leads me to ask this question....is there a way to replace the sensor and wire it up to the original gauge so I wouldn't have to run a separate gauge? I mean it would be useful to someone who wanted to keep the interior clean.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by slashfan7964
I have an aftermarket gauge currently but it leads me to ask this question....is there a way to replace the sensor and wire it up to the original gauge so I wouldn't have to run a separate gauge? I mean it would be useful to someone who wanted to keep the interior clean.
Depends. Some of the aftermarket sending units might be compatible with the factory gauge, which requires a sending unit with a 10 to 72 ohm range. However, that doesn't solve the problem. The factory gauges consist of the sending unit, the wiring harness, the dash circuit board, the gauge, and the Instrument Cluster Voltage Regulator - the ICVR. Any one of those parts of the chain can cause problems, not just the sending unit. So, running an aftermarket gauge in addition to the factory one is good insurance.

As for keeping the interior clean, I plan to put two gauges in the little pocket to the right of the steering column on Dad's truck. I've had the factory ammeter turned into a volt meter, so only need an oil pressure and temp gauge. That will clean up the interior as well as make them much more visible while driving. So watch that thread for how I that.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 07:42 AM
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Why would you want to keep the factory gauge? Yes it's "clean" but what is "normal"?. What is "L"? What is "H"? The whole point is to figure out the actual temp you are running. And like Gary said, redundancy can be a good thing with important components.

To the original poster. If you are really running hot, you should be getting some other signs also. Like burning oil smells from the engine, pinging on acceleration, and it may run rough at idle when the fuel starts boiling in the carb.

If you replaced the sending unit and use thread tape or a lot of sealer to seal the threads, that can mess up your readings, the sensor need s a good ground to the engine.

Also, keep a check on the coolant level. You should run it with the cap off till the thermostat opens, so it can burp all the air out from when it was low.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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Thank you everyone. I'm going to price gauges today. Is there any way, as stupid as it sounds, to have the factory and aftermarket gauges run off of one sender? My truck is clean and I would like it to remain that way if possible.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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No, you can't run them off of one sender. Most inexpensive aftermarket gauges are mechanical rather than electrical. Mechanical gauges use a tube from a sender to the gauge and require drilling a hole in the firewall. And the electrical ones typically use a non-compatible sender to the factory gauges.
 
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