Notices
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

really close to working

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 12:17 PM
  #1  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 99
From: Ashland City, TN
really close to working

And ... of course the axle I get is a Gen 1.
and I have a Gen 2.

Went to swap the yokes and...

Yep.

I knew things were going to easy.

So, the way to tell a gen 1 from a gen 2 is the gen 1's have the smaller u-bolt style strap, while the gen 2's have the larger beefier yoke with a flat style strap.
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 02:40 PM
  #2  
OldWoodsDiesel's Avatar
OldWoodsDiesel
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,647
Likes: 1
From: Exton, PA
when did that changeover from gen1 to gen2 happen? any idea?
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 03:42 PM
  #3  
ReBilld's Avatar
ReBilld
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 11,132
Likes: 3
From: Southern West Virginia
Originally Posted by OldWoodsDiesel
when did that changeover from gen1 to gen2 happen? any idea?
'92 I think, but not 100% sure.
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 03:54 PM
  #4  
OldWoodsDiesel's Avatar
OldWoodsDiesel
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,647
Likes: 1
From: Exton, PA
and, of course the u-joint sizes changed at the same time, right? so axles/driveshafts are not forward/backward compatible?

that sounds about right :-)
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 06:15 PM
  #5  
Diesel_Brad's Avatar
Diesel_Brad
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 21,437
Likes: 76
From: Gilbert, PA
I though the long/short pinion change took place about 93/94?
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 06:19 PM
  #6  
Ford4Life7.3's Avatar
Ford4Life7.3
Posting Guru
10 Year Member
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,303
Likes: 1
Club FTE Silver Member

I believe it was 92, i got a yoke out of a 91 thinking it was the same and it wasn't.
 
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 11:33 PM
  #7  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 99
From: Ashland City, TN
Yeah. I had to go to the parts store and luckily the manager there is awesome.

Found a ujoint that has the right caps to fit on my ujoint so I can bolt my axle too it, because the ujoints are just a hair smaller on the gen 1's also.

This basically means that I will have to do a pinion swap here this winter at some point. Joy oh joy.
 
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2013 | 12:01 AM
  #8  
ReBilld's Avatar
ReBilld
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 11,132
Likes: 3
From: Southern West Virginia
Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
I though the long/short pinion change took place about 93/94?
I'm not sure. I have a '94 axle that is a 2nd gen I know. I have a '92 that I can look at and see.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 12, 2013 | 10:02 AM
  #9  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 99
From: Ashland City, TN
Yep. Grabbed a U-joint that fits. and of course the ID on the cap is wrong.

FFS.
 
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2013 | 12:55 PM
  #10  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 99
From: Ashland City, TN
swapping pinions.
 
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2013 | 10:56 PM
  #11  
ReBilld's Avatar
ReBilld
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 11,132
Likes: 3
From: Southern West Virginia
I'd swap ring gears too so it will be a matched set. Use the same pinion shim that is in there and the pinion depth should be right.
 
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2013 | 05:50 AM
  #12  
427 fordman's Avatar
427 fordman
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,408
Likes: 75
From: Plankinton, SD
Ya, you're never supposed to mix n match ring and pinions. It's guaranteed not to last long if you don't swap both.
 
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2013 | 06:39 AM
  #13  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 99
From: Ashland City, TN
Originally Posted by 427 fordman
Ya, you're never supposed to mix n match ring and pinions. It's guaranteed not to last long if you don't swap both.
Don't have a press to change bearings.

If any of you would like to have come help me here in the last 4 days I've been working on this, it mighta went a bit faster.

I don't have a vehicle to go get parts.
I have limited tools to do this with and I have to have my truck out of the barn its in by 12 today to get somebodies vehicle thats in storage out.

sorry for being pissy, but This job really sucks.
 
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2013 | 06:44 AM
  #14  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Thread Starter
|
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 99
From: Ashland City, TN
Sorry guys, That information would have been more useful yesterday around... oh.

the time I made the post about swapping the pinions.

Took me an hour just to get the carrier out of the axle.
 
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2013 | 07:14 AM
  #15  
ReBilld's Avatar
ReBilld
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 11,132
Likes: 3
From: Southern West Virginia
You don't have to touch the bearings to change ring gears. Just unbolt the ring gears from the carrier and swap them. You need to do that! Keep the ring and pinion matched set together. You're just asking for trouble if you don't.

As far as helping you, I would be the first one to help you or anybody else, but its not always possible. My truck has been down for two months and I don't see anybody beatin my door down to help, but I don't expect it either. So nut up and fixyour truck right Mr. Pissy!!! LMAO!!!!''!
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:51 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE