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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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How do you tell if the manual hubs are locked or unlocked?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 08:54 AM
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if they are stock there should be two little dimples one should have free and the other lock.

if they are Warn or Mile Marker both have Free and Locked engraved and the arrow on the dial points to what you have it at
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 09:16 AM
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Turned all the way clockwise is lock. Turned all the way counterclockwise is unlock.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Thank you!
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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I guess I'll pile a question on here. My hubs are stock and have free and lock with the dimples. I have the ESOF, does that mean the free position on mine is actually the "Auto" position?

I haven't looked for the vacuum lines yet, but I figure I'd ask. The truck is a 2002 F250 LAriat 4wd.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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If you have ESOF, then you will have vac lines. It's been a while since I looked closely at the early 99+ hubs, but IIRC you should have AUTO and LOCK.

If not, it's possible that someone swapped out your hubs with a set of manual hubs somewhere along the truck's lifetime. Have you owned it since new?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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Yes, ESOF hubs say "auto", not "locked". If yours say "locked", they are not stock.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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I've owned it since a month ago lol. It is entirely stock as far as I can tell and it was for dealer maintained. It just rolled over 98k at lunch today. It doesn't even have a hitch on it.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thomabb
Yes, ESOF hubs say "auto", not "locked". If yours say "locked", they are not stock.
ESOF system hubs say "Auto" and "Lock".

Manual system hubs say "Free" and "Lock".

Both style hubs say "Lock" on them.

Wizkid, if your hubs say "Free" and "Lock" on them, then like said before, someone has changed the original auto hubs out for some manual style hubs.
This is common because the auto hub system is known for having issues with vacuum leaks which makes them unreliable in the "Auto" position, so they get changed out!

I am thinking of changing mine out for manual hubs for this same reason!!!
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GregsSD
ESOF system hubs say "Auto" and "Lock".

Manual system hubs say "Free" and "Lock".

Both style hubs say "Lock" on them.
Thanks for the correction! Brain types 80 words per minute, but fingers only type 15!
 
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my stock auto hubs always worked then one winter i was getting a horrible vibration. turned out the hubs wouldn't unlock when i turned the dial back to 2wd for some reason. That afternoon i went to a local off road/4x4 shop and bought a set of Warn premiums.... this was two years ago so they went what 04 to late 2010 early 2011, seven years with no issues?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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Wiz keep he manuals if you can, or if the dealer might replace them go for that but my truck went through a new et of auto hubs every 2 years when my dda owned it and plowed. Yes that was heavy use but still...$500 every two years just to use 4x4. My hubs started to fail again so me being the Mr. iwannafixit that i am i took them out lubed them and they worked great for about 2 weeks then i used them for real and they got stuck engaged and would not disengage..not vac issues just the hubs. tried to relube them and had no luck so i broke down and got some mile marker hubs, never had an issue again. But thats $120 and never need to spend $500 again to make my 4x4 work....also i have 2wd low now .
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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Since we're on the subject. On my 1999 ESOF with auto/manual hub should my front 4wd shaft spin when I'm driving on 2wd on AUTO?
 
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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It should not spin, however it will spin slightly while tuning sometimes i believe.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:51 AM
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Wiz keep he manuals if you can, or if the dealer might replace them go for that but my truck went through a new et of auto hubs every 2 years when my dda owned it and plowed. Yes that was heavy use but still...$500 every two years just to use 4x4. My hubs started to fail again so me being the Mr. iwannafixit that i am i took them out lubed them and they worked great for about 2 weeks then i used them for real and they got stuck engaged and would not disengage..not vac issues just the hubs. tried to relube them and had no luck so i broke down and got some mile marker hubs, never had an issue again. But thats $120 and never need to spend $500 again to make my 4x4 work....also i have 2wd low now .
I will definitely keep manual hubs. I'd prefer to have the mechanical t-case too, but I'll leave the working one in there for now. My driver side hub is very hard to turn, so when I get my rotors turned, I will pull the hubs off and grease them up really good. I think the housing has a little nick in it that is causing some of the friction, so I may replace them with some warns if I have to.
 
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