Parts from 351M fit 460?/ advice.

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Old 10-28-2013, 10:43 AM
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Parts from 351M fit 460?/ advice.

Truck is a 1979 F250 4x4 351M c6

Has a good running 351M but it's tired and leaks from every where so needs a going through but most accessories are new on it. Does any of the accessories fit on a 460?

Is it worth it to spend the extra money on a 460 (can't verify is it runs) all accessories are gone so just block and heads, is it worth it or should I just keep the 351M for now and redo it?

I don't need much power, more reliability is better. Not very experienced in these motors so looking for some advice.
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While things like the PS pump or AC compressor might be the same, the mounts will be different, and the lines in and out will probably be different.

A 460 swap is a bit of work. While it will bolt up to your trans, exhaust, cooling and a lot of other little things are different. It is not a "bolt in direct swap".

Your 351M can be brought back to life for a lot less time and maybe even money than a 460 swap.

Serving suggestion:

--pull and tear it down

--have the block hot tanked

--hone it & re-ring it if the pistons are in spec.

--put in new standard bearings

--new valve seals in the heads, after you make sure the valves are all ok

--put it back together with a new cam that actually moves and holds the valves open and a timing set that runs the cam "straight up".

Drive it.

M-Block 351M/400 Performance

You will enjoy a bit more power and this should not break the bank.
 
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:02 PM
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Agreed.

If you want to spend a bit more to turn it into a 400, all you'd need is a 400 crank and pistons....but definitely a better cam and straight up double roller timing chain.
 
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:22 PM
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Ya I thought about a 400 build, I would definitely consider it depending on how far down I strip the motor. Might just do valve job, cam, gaskets and seals and change the timing so it's not at it's emission restricted state.
 
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:23 AM
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If you are going that far, it isn't a whole lot more trouble or money to do the lower end.

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i have rebuilding my 351/m to a 400 with all the parts and machine work is costing about 2000.00 that not including perfomer intake or carb.
 
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if your lower end is still good, you could work your heads, get an rv cam with timing chain, headers, aluminum intake, 600 cfm carb, and you could be seeing 300+hp out of that 351m....
 
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. Old thread from October, but prolly didn't do anything over winter... 351M's have way low compression ratio... so a bigger cam does no good... weakens lower RPMs power, throttle response, and hurts the already bad MPG... also, there are no good off-the-shelf, reasonably priced rebuilder pistons for a 351M, they lower compression ratio even further... putting a 400 crank into a 351M turns it back into a 400" and there are good, reasonably priced off-the-shelf pistons available for them now from TMI/KB... this makes the engine more efficient yielding improved MPG and power and throttle response when used with a mild performance cam... or even the stock cam advanced to straight up timing... re-use all accessories... will put a huge smile on your face...! Also, 80 lbs. lighter engine than a 460 and better MPG...
 
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