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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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03 ball joint binding issues

So I noticed my passenger side ball joints needed to be replaced. I went to auto zone and bought a set of duralast ball joints and when I torqued them down the steering knuckle was really hard to turn. I thought it would loosen up so put it back together and truck steered really bad. Week later pulled them out took them back and got new ones same thing knuckle was hard to turn took them out and got money back went and got a set of moog ball joints and same thing not quite as stiff but still stiff. Any ideas?? I torqued the bottom one first at 150ft and then the top one at 70ft.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Properly installed ? Not deformed ? Proper seat and bore condition ? Proper lube ? POOR CHINESE CRAP ! Just a few thoughts... I have had issues with poorly made ball joints in the past . Moog is usually " good " quality . But , I just put House Brand From O'reilly in my 04 mounty ....
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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I'm sure they are in right I think it may have something to do with the caster adjusting sleeve.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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You are stating torque # . Are these tty ball joints ? Have you checked the MOOG specs for torque ? Maybe you are over torquing them ? I will be honest , I Rarely torque anything other then head gaskets and bearing caps . I always go by feel , and sight for a castle nut .
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by reh4960
I'm sure they are in right I think it may have something to do with the caster adjusting sleeve.

Maybe but I Doubt it How much Torq you giving it????the BJ's

How are the U-Joints???

How is the steering stabilizer

Is it Hard to Move Before the Tie Rod is attached???

3 Set BJ I wouldn't think all was Bad there is something else going on here
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by reh4960
So I noticed my passenger side ball joints needed to be replaced. I went to auto zone and bought a set of duralast ball joints and when I torqued them down the steering knuckle was really hard to turn. I thought it would loosen up so put it back together and truck steered really bad. Week later pulled them out took them back and got new ones same thing knuckle was hard to turn took them out and got money back went and got a set of moog ball joints and same thing not quite as stiff but still stiff. Any ideas?? I torqued the bottom one first at 150ft and then the top one at 70ft.

Was that Before Tie Rod was Attached???? when you checked

Mine was easy at that Point with Moog BJ torqed to Moog Specs
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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That was with the tie rod unhooked right after they were torqued where ford recommends them to be I never torque anything either but I only did because of this issue.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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What are the MOOG specs?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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I would ck the moog specs aginst the Ford specs , The issue may be there .
 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by reh4960
That was with the tie rod unhooked right after they were torqued where ford recommends them to be I never torque anything either but I only did because of this issue.

Was the Stub Axel in???? at this Time

Or just steering knuckle with BJ Torqed???


IIRC I went with the Moog Torq Specs the 170 ft/lbs sounds framilar Fact I had to buy a New Torq Wrench to do it

And were the Greased???
 
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Does MOOG supply torque specs in the box?
 
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Proper lube ^^^ a high torque component , installed dry , will not take lube properly . The damage can happen fast .
 
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Just steering knuckle nothing else. moog torque specs are the same as ford on these ones 150ft/lbs bottom and 70ft/lbs top.
 
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Proper lube ^^^ a high torque component , installed dry , will not take lube properly . The damage can happen fast .
So lube before insertion and torquing?
 
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Does MOOG supply torque specs in the box?
I do not remember any specs in the box . There is a piece of paper with writing on it , but it goes in the round file with the box .
 
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