Might help to say where you are as we have several willing members all across the nation ready to lend a hand.

Josh

 

It is important to have it scanned for codes before buying parts. A live data scanner like the Scangauge2 can help diagnose many problems and help you see symptoms before they become problems.

 

North of Houston, Tx, near Lake Conroe.


Will definately use scan tool to check codes in am.

Thanks for.all the replies.

 

It would be good to check the HPO system these sensor below Live data first 3 are HPO

ICP
ICPV
IPR%
FPW
VOLT
FICM main
FICM Vehicle
FICM Lodgic
FICM SYNC
SYNC
BARO
MAP
EBP

I just kinda think the kid went to change the oil and wouldn't start and cranked till batterys were Dead

The alarm going Crazy might be the problem to and would be a Good Idea to unplug it for now or the next No Start then try

Then you can always drive it and get to your destination and try to restart hot Just don't do it if you don't wont to be Long

Could be 2 things IDK the alarm has nothing to do with HPO

 

How many times will we see this before people check the simple stuff first. So not long after an oil change the truck won't start? That's your clue. The cheapest thing to check first....

1. Is it an. OEM motorcraft filter?
2. Is it an OEM Motorcraft cap?

If not, this may be your problem. The drainback valve may be open inside the filter resevoir and you won't build pressure with wrong combination of cap and filter.

 

Most don't know to check that I agree its Great thing to check

Most trucks start with wrong Combo

Must be a Matter if the filter floats up

 

This is what a WIX filter will do to a truck and cause a NO-START. I know BLADE35 has seen this stuff before, this is for the OP. Low Base Oil Pressure means a No-Start. From everything I have read HPOP failure is rare on these 06's. But I would definitely check the Filter FIRST!

 

Our oil chg place uses the Motorcrft filters. Scanner says P2291 Injector Control PressureToo Low Eng Cranking. That is only code.

 

Saying and doing are two different things. I have seen mechanics substitute when they don't have what they need. I would crack the oil filter cap open and have a look. Do you ALWAYS use that shop?

Its possible you have a bad stc fitting at the oil pump...but Check the easy stuff first. Does the oil gauge on Dash move? You could have motorcraft filter and a Napa cap. Thats all I'm saying.

 

Will it start cold? If it does, let it warm up the operating temp, check for codes. Shut it off and wait 1 minute. Try to start it again and check codes.

 

Great start this Just about Proves my theory that the Kid changing the Oil Cranked till Batterys were DEAD the Batterys Was Fine

P2291 ICP Injector Control Pressure Too Low — Engine Cranking ICP cranking pressure too low
Pull the ICP and try to Start Fast Painless and Easy to try

We need a couple things
Verify Correct Oil Filter Cap
Verify LPO Flow

If the Cap checks OK Since LPO Feeds HPO we start with LPO


A HPO PROBLEM WILL LEAD TO LPO PROBLEM

Here is Ford's ssm on the topic:
Ssm 19417 2003-2007 F-super Duty/2003-2005 Excursion 6.0l - Watch For Oil Flow From The Base Engine Oil Pump
Some 2003-2007 F-super Duty And 2003-2005 Excursion Vehicles Equipped With A 6.0l Diesel May Exhibit Low Base Engine Oil Pressure Caused By A Leak In The High Pressure Oil System. If A High Pressure System Leak Is Severe, The High Pressure Pump May Use A Larger Volume Of Oil Than The Base Engine (gerotor) Pump Can Produce While Cranking. If Base Engine Oil Pressure Is Low, Remove Oil Filter, Hold Down The Oil Drain Valve (left Side Of Housing) With A Screwdriver And Crank The Engine While Watching For Oil Flow From The Base Engine Oil Pump. If Flow Is Present, Use The Updated Diagnostics For The High Pressure Oil System (electronic Version Of Pc/ed, Section 4, Step 10e). If There Is No Flow At The Oil Filter Housing Diagnose The Base Engine Oil System First (workshop Manual Section 303-01c).
Effective Date: 10/06/2006


Here is a Pic of the Filter Caps what one do you Have????????

The one on Left side is Correct with Motocraft Filter

 

Read this thread for oil filter and cap causing a no-start and how he fixed it....the short one (OEM) should be about 2.0 inches in height not counting the threads. In other words, measure from the lip to the top of the nut molded into the top of the cap. If it comes out to 2.5 or 3", then you have the wrong cap.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...need-help.html

 

Well, we took it the shop. They called today and told me they had found an oil leak and needed to do some teardown to find it.......

 

HPOP leaking and couple oil plugs need replacing.

The weird thing is that the mechanic swears there is evidence that the HPOP installed is not original. We have only ever had it serviced at Ford prior, and there is no record of it having been replaced. I was not speaking directly to the mechanic, but the gentleman on the phone told me that there was something about the way the hose had popped off???? I had a lot of noise in the background when he called, so relaying the best I can.

$800+ for a new OEM HPOP. Does that sound right? 10 hours labor + the 4 hours for initial diagnosis?

 

4 hours diagnostic's sounds high for an HPOP leak but 10 hours labor isn't bad. A good tech can do a pump in 1/2 a day but you still have to pay flat rate. If he's doing standpipes and dummy plugs it's not a bad deal.