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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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Gotcha... I tried. lol

So, at 2500 RPM I assume no load?

Also, how the heck do you keep the SGII on? Mine shuts down after the engine stops.

Thanks again for taking the time to assist. Today, she ran pretty good. Also, I would like to note that the truck had these issues before I changed the oil. I don't know where the previous owner took it but it wasn't changed by the same dealership prior to my purchase. Next change I will look into getting an OEM filter to them so at the least I can have that on there. The lifetime oil change is 4 times a year so no matter the mileage I am getting it changed every three months. I paid enough for it and they are going to eat the cost eventually... LOL
 
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 11:15 PM
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I also now have the VGT reading for the xguage programmed. Does that have anything to do with the turbo?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:23 AM
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Most SG's do turn off after the communication is lost or the vehicle is turned off. Just hit the power button on the lower right side and it will come back on. As far as the oil filter goes, honestly in my opinion you are playing Russian Roulette waiting for the next oil change. The filter can be had at walmart for $20, and you are not draining any oil in order to change it out. I am not familiar with the brand they are using, but prior to installing the OEM you also need to ensure that the factory oil filter housing cap is installed, and if not this purchase is also a must. If I were you I would take 5mins to inspect the cap and if correct change the filter. It could save you loads in the long run. If you go to the tech folder there should be a thread in there that describes the dimensions of the OEM cap..

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by USAF_POL
Gotcha... I tried. lol

So, at 2500 RPM I assume no load?

Also, how the heck do you keep the SGII on? Mine shuts down after the engine stops.

Thanks again for taking the time to assist. Today, she ran pretty good. Also, I would like to note that the truck had these issues before I changed the oil. I don't know where the previous owner took it but it wasn't changed by the same dealership prior to my purchase. Next change I will look into getting an OEM filter to them so at the least I can have that on there. The lifetime oil change is 4 times a year so no matter the mileage I am getting it changed every three months. I paid enough for it and they are going to eat the cost eventually... LOL
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I also now have the VGT reading for the xguage programmed. Does that have anything to do with the turbo?
The VGT% shows what the PCM is commanding the turbo to do. Here is a video showing the differences between OEM filters and aftermarket filters,
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by USAF_POL
Gotcha... I tried. lol

So, at 2500 RPM I assume no load?

Also, how the heck do you keep the SGII on? Mine shuts down after the engine stops.

Thanks again for taking the time to assist. Today, she ran pretty good. Also, I would like to note that the truck had these issues before I changed the oil. I don't know where the previous owner took it but it wasn't changed by the same dealership prior to my purchase. Next change I will look into getting an OEM filter to them so at the least I can have that on there. The lifetime oil change is 4 times a year so no matter the mileage I am getting it changed every three months. I paid enough for it and they are going to eat the cost eventually... LOL
Truck in Park in all the tests
The scan gauge goes into sleep mode with the truck shut down, but shouldn't when truck is in test or running. If so just push lower right button.
VGT ( Varible Geometric Turbo) is part of the senser to operate the turbo
koeo=0 low=73% high=43% operating values=0-100% you don't want anything at 85% low and I think 15% high , I may have to read up on those Values.
also what else helps turbo boost will be MAP and EBP so when you get those Values post them up.
If your having loss of power to the turbo check=
1. CAC cooler and Boots connections, make sure no cracks in the CAC plastic cooler and boot clamps are tight with no splits in the rubber. and of course the EGR Valve. but for now post what is on the board
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Thank you all for your input. I will check the oil filter for sure. Watching the kiddo tomorrow so should... Never mind, this is the wife's. Anyways, here is all the numbers I have:

KOEO
BAR 13.8
EBP 15.2
VGT 00.0 obviously... Lol
PSI/MAP 00.1
ICP 10
ICPV. .18
IPR 14.4

LOW (same order)

13.8
15.2
85
0.1
642
0.87
22.1

HI

13.8
17.6-18.6
39
0.6
1398
1.7
38.7
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mustang_309
The VGT% shows what the PCM is commanding the turbo to do. Here is a video showing the differences between OEM filters and aftermarket filters,
Great video, thank you.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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Thank you all for your input. I will check the oil filter for sure. Watching the kiddo tomorrow so should... Never mind, this is the wife's. Anyways, here is all the numbers I have:

KOEO
BAR 13.8
EBP 15.2
VGT 00.0 obviously... Lol
PSI/MAP 00.1
ICP 10
ICPV. .18
IPR 14.4

LOW (same order)

13.8
15.2
85
0.1
642
0.87
22.1

HI

13.8
17.6-18.6
39
0.6
1398
1.7
38.7
your MAP is Off
MAP=koeo-14 low-14 hi-15
MAP V= koeo-1.30 lo-1.33 hi-1.4
follow the 3/8 hose down to the Intake Manifold theres a Nipple that threads into the Intake the little hole gets clogged( do not spray the Map senser it self) I disconnected the Hose off of the senser and with a 10mm wrench brake it loose and use the hose to spin the nipple out, make sure the hose and nipple is not clogged , now at the Intake clear the hole there aswell.
Post map Values after.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 12:43 PM
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Are you talking about the line that comes from the turbo to the intake manifold? That's the only one I see. On my phone so sadly I can't post a pic. I could take a video, post to YouTube then post on here...
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by USAF_POL
Are you talking about the line that comes from the turbo to the intake manifold? That's the only one I see. On my phone so sadly I can't post a pic. I could take a video, post to YouTube then post on here...
The line that you are referring to is the oil pressure supply line to the turbo. It's usually solid steel or steel with braid in the middle.

There is a small rubber hose that goes from the top of the heater box to the passenger side of the intake manifold. That is from the MAP sensor. Typically the hose has a tiny red spring clamp that holds it on to a nipple that's screwed or pressed into the intake manifold. You need to make sure that nipple is not clogged, hose clogged or split, and MAP sensor is intact.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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No the MAP is bolted to the A/C Heater Box on a angle bracket deal with a Vac tub going right to the Intake Manafold

Your MAP and EBP was out at KOEO

EBP is Close enough

That MAP is Plugged up with soot at the sensor or tube But MAP is the one that needs addressed maybe replaced
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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see the RED wire and the Hose right under it with the convoluted tube below red wire that's the MAP Hose
and the Angle braket mounted on A/C Heater Box that's where MAP Sensor is

 
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 01:22 AM
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see the RED wire and the Hose right under it with the convoluted tube below red wire that's the MAP Hose
and the Angle braket mounted on A/C Heater Box that's where MAP Sensor is

Thanks Guys been a LOOONG week, Benny does your Map hose interfere with the heat control valve ? looks like yours lays across the swing arm, my hose runs under the heat control hose.
 
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