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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 04:17 PM
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injector hold down problem

I recently had a injector go out lucky #7 of course. So i look up the tools i need and see a long torx #40 for the injector hold down that i dont have. I buy one an sk hand tool torx bit first i try cranking on my torque ratchet set at 15 ft/lbs i here it click pull the tool out and the bottom of the torx is twisted. So i buy a snap on long torx bit today and the same thing happened twisted the tool. One thing that i could think of that might cause the problem is im cutting the torx tool length by 1 inch. I dont know if i should just take the evap. case out to get more room or if i have a more serious problem.Im not the original owner and the guy before me put head studs in. any help will be appreciated
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its a early 2003 build with the oil log
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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re check your torque values iirc it is 26 INCH LBS
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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SORRY forget my reply i was replying before thinking
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 06:02 PM
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re read your post. are you removing or installing? recently i had similar problem removing inj. 1st 40 torqs twisted then purchased new snap on torqs used 3/8 breaker bar and a quick snap it it came loose. on install recomend using inch lb toque wrench,new torque recomended seems to be 26 ft lbs but most ft lb torque wrenches do not seem very accurate at that low torque .good luck! not fun back there,if you are unsure of hold down it is best to replace it
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 06:32 PM
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im removing the hold down i just set the torque ratchet to see how much the torx bit would withstand 15 ft/lbs twisted both of them at that.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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wow it seems to have been over tightened. when you get it removed compare the hold down boltw ith anew one (length) as it may be stretched, as mentioned a breaker bar with more leverage and a quick snap usualy gets it loose . i have had to use an impact driver before ,but i realize you do not have the room. maybe someone else can chime in good luck
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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S#!t I wonder if they Lock Tight it 26ft/lbs is where it should be at

A Torx bit shouldn't even be close to Twist out at 15 ft.lbs

Good Luck
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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ya i was thinking someone put lock tight on it or used an air impact i knew it could not take that much force to break it loose. I have never changed an injector on it so i didnt know what to expect. Im gonna see if a 1/2 inch breaker might do it.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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Do you have an Impact Gun?? this would Help I bet to get it out

spray PB Blaster in there or there was something else the Guys use that sounds better at Busting bolts loose but I cant remember it right now

Its probably going to be a Good Idea to change the Holddown now because at a Minimum the Bolts probably stretched

these hold downs can be Touchey PIA and you don't want to have to go back in for Fuel hydrolock
 
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 01:29 AM
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I agree. Take the time to get it right. I had a hold-down let go 6 hours from home in the mountains, out of cell range. That's how they punish you. Hydro locked cylinder. Big mess. My mech opted for a little Lock Tite after that.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ArNy64
... One thing that i could think of that might cause the problem is im cutting the torx tool length by 1 inch. ...

its a early 2003 build with the oil log
Cutting the tool will change the temper thus loosing its strength

granted does seem it is in there too tight / lock-tight'd

As much as I dislike Harbor Freight the do have a 1/4" torx set that is the perfect length. I had a couple of hold downs that were tight when I first did mine and it did hold up, granted I had no Idea what the torque value was but i was struggle quite a bit to "break it"
 
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