Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

can you help me?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 03:21 PM
  #16  
broke vet's Avatar
broke vet
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
The four-stroke cycle uses four strokes of the piston to recharge the cylinder, compress the charge, extract power from the (now burning) charge, and evacuate the burnt charge. While I can go into more detail if you like, for now I'll just say that you want the engine timed at or near TDC on the compression stroke, not the exhaust stroke -- which it would be if you set it up 180 degrees out.
 
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 07:01 PM
  #17  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
Originally Posted by hoytaray
Thanks for being helpful.
No problem, glad to help

Originally Posted by hoytaray
I
Originally Posted by hoytaray
have been on other sites and sometimes the only people who respond are just wanting to get the post count up or something. I like this one.


We have some here like that as well

Originally Posted by hoytaray
I need to go deer hunting so I need my trucks.

Use them like you mean it, lol


Originally Posted by hoytaray
Oh yeah before I log this why is all the post you make on another thread being told to me by an email? I dont remember clicking anything saying I wanted it and now I am gettin emails from when your friends post on it. I think its more than one thread now. sorry for blabbing on
No problem, a little adjustment, and that will stop

Go to user cp on the left click it.

Scroll down to options, and click it
A new page comes up
Scroll down to default thread subscription mode
In the drop down box, click no email subscription

Scroll down to bottom, click save changes.
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 01:51 PM
  #18  
hoytaray's Avatar
hoytaray
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by broke vet
The four-stroke cycle uses four strokes of the piston to recharge the cylinder, compress the charge, extract power from the (now burning) charge, and evacuate the burnt charge. While I can go into more detail if you like, for now I'll just say that you want the engine timed at or near TDC on the compression stroke, not the exhaust stroke -- which it would be if you set it up 180 degrees out.
I had my finger in sparkplug hole as piston was rising and it was pushing air out, more than it was on the rise before. so could I still be 180* out and need to go to the next stroke that has air?
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 02:16 PM
  #19  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
If someone bumps the key, TDC will actually blow your finger off the hole'

It won't run on 180 out. Just back fire, and spit, but won't start.

You can however get off a tooth or two when setting the distributor down, and the oil pump shaft isn''t quite lined up.

Make sure to look at the damper and see if the line on it lines up with TDC marked on the plate, You may have to put a soda straw in the spark plug hole, and rock the crank back and forth with a big wrench on the damper bolt.
Watch the soda straw raise and lower when turning the crank. When the straw raises, and just starts to drop, check the distributor where it sits. If at #1 your close. If not, see if you have enough travel turning the distributor to make it #1

If not, pull the distributor, and turn it back a bit until it drops where it id dead center on #1
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 03:11 PM
  #20  
hoytaray's Avatar
hoytaray
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
ok sweet! that is what I did. I used a wrench and rocked it back and forth. I aint been brave nuff to stick my finger into the hole whilest somebody is at the key! should I be? I will By Gumby! if you think I should. anyways so I cant be 180* out then cuz it runs and Idles; just not smoothly. also I cant adjust it enuff the way it is; so you think; If I am understanding correctly! that I should move it one tooth.
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 05:58 PM
  #21  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
No need to stick your finger in the hole, lol

You "seal" the hole with your finger

have the person "bump" the key, you don't want the starter to turn over, just bump the motor around. Kinda like ruh, say again, ruh, again, ruh,PSSSST
stop there, put the soda straw in, and rock the damper back and forth until the piston pushes the straw to it's highest point.

When turning 1 tooth, you may have to take a 5/16 1/4" socket on a long extension. Tape the socket on the extension so it can't fall off, and turn the oil pump rod a bit. You may have to do this a few tries, but eventually the distributor will go all the way down, and be exactly at #1.
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2013 | 05:59 PM
  #22  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
Another thought, you cranked quite a bit, it very well may be that your plugs are fouled with fuel. Pull them and have a look.
 
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 03:08 PM
  #23  
hoytaray's Avatar
hoytaray
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
I looked and looked and couldnt find an oil pump rod. I am thinking the way you said what you said when you typed what you said is to pull distributor and in that hole is a 5/16" or 1/4" bolt down in there and it goes to the oil pump rod... maybe. I did look alot before I ask this. and the plugs seem to be in good shape.
thanks for asking.
I have another question about the timing. will it only have one compression stroke or does it have two? someone mentioned a 4 stroke and thats why I ask.
I get this running and my next project is also a 4.9l 1981 f-100. Hope I didnt make you just sigh..
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 04:35 PM
  #24  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
Look at the bottom of the distributor, sometimes the rod sticks in there. Probably your close enough that you can make it to #1 by just turning the distributor

Here's a link on how a 4 stroke engine works
 
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 04:35 PM
  #25  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
And here's a 2 stroke.

 
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 07:55 PM
  #26  
broke vet's Avatar
broke vet
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by hoytaray
Hope I didnt make you just sigh..
Nobody is born knowing this stuff. We all learned it from somewhere.
 
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2013 | 07:59 PM
  #27  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
Originally Posted by broke vet
Nobody is born knowing this stuff. We all learned it from somewhere.
I agree. At some point, we all were just getting started.
There is no such thing as a dumb question, so keep um coming!
 
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 05:15 PM
  #28  
hoytaray's Avatar
hoytaray
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Today, I went out and set the tdc compression stroke used my rachet to rock it back and forth to set. Distributor rotor was already facing 1 and so I put it back together,and it idles lil better for some reason. didnt do anything, except pray. I went for the KOER codes, did it by the book too also too, this is what I got- 998 & 118. 998 is failure mode, 118 is the code that followed which is (engine coolant temperature sensor above maximum votage). Chilton book has some info on this ECT sensor, but; not what it looks like. says it is located either in the heater supply tube at the rear of the engine, or in the lower intake manifold. Son-a-ma-gun... if I dont know what it looks like then I aint gonna find it that eazy. So anyways, I will be looking on here on my slow as heck internet to see how frustrated I can get trying to find a picture of that. Although the operation of this ECT sensor does sound like it may be the fault; I will still perform the test this book says too before just buying one.
 
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 07:04 PM
  #29  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
ect sends a signal to the computer from the egr, says whether it's working or not. That should have been a 332.....
Check for cracked or broken vacuum lines. Also look real well at the coffee can looking thing behind the battery. That's the vacuum reserve, and it has a habit of rusting out. I just ordered one yesterday for my 94.
 
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 07:18 PM
  #30  
dustybumpers's Avatar
dustybumpers
FTE Legend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 56,542
Likes: 0
From: In my own world
118 is coolant sensor. That could cause it to run rough when first started.
That would be the sending unit with the 3 wires coming out of the thermostat housing at the spot the heater hose hooks on

Here's a thermostat housing the heater hose is to the left. The switch (sensor ) that you want to replace is in the center
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:56 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE