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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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white smoke cause found

A while ago my 6.9 started smoking. I found the dead hole and put in an injector. No effect. When I went to pull the glow plug to check compression it separated and in a fit of rage pulled the engine and opted for a 7.3 since I had a few. I was just about to scrap the thing and curiosity got the better Of me. A lifter had broke at the ears and the roller and pin had fallen off the intake. That's why it was pumping out raw fuel. So just to let everyone know. Pull the valve covers before going crazy ape man. Because the rest of the internals looked great. Very clean and the sump screen caught the debris. I could have ran that engine another ten years. That is all.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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Moral of story, beer AFTER diagnosis.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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Moral of story, beer AFTER diagnosis.

Let's not jump to conclusions. This subject needs a LOT more research!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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Lol moderate consumption before diagnosis maybe. I just got mad. No patience with alot on my plate. So I did it the hard way.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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Moral of story, beer AFTER diagnosis.
that and consider swapping out your pre '87 6.9 rockers for 7.3l's before this failure occurs.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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Let's not jump to conclusions. This subject needs a LOT more research!
found what you might be interested in reading:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...9-rockers.html
 
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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My 6.9 is an 87. It already had the newer rockers without that goofy bridge on top. Not sure what caused it to fail. The pushrods are all straight. Even the cam is fine other than some serious wear in the fuel pump lobe. For some reason the ears holding the pin and roller just broke. At any rate everything top and exterior is going on my new 7.3 . Just looking for some rebuilt heads New water pump and injectors. The 6.9 just got a new fuel ip. Rumour is that they aretthe same so if that's true I'm almost all set.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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There's no difference between a 6.9 and 7.3 injection pump that you'll ever notice performance-wise between the two engines.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 12:02 AM
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Personally I have never had one apart. How does it meter fuel. And the coveted screw to up the fuel. Is there a rack it adjusts in there or what? Are the injectors all the same and the pump does the work or are the injectors different Too? The exhaust is supposed to be the same Too. I hope so because I just have broken 7.3 manifolds I've never gotten around to repairing.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 12:14 AM
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It's all working on the same basic principle. The injection pump (regardless of 6.9 or 7.3) turns in a rotary direction, opening up the port to and pushing fuel to the injector line. The line reaches a certain PSI, and the injector opens up. It squirts fuel into the pre-chamber, and when the PSI drops below a certain point, it closes. That's it.

The injectors are pretty much all the same as well; just small differences in tips and open/close pressures. The different codes are to tell you what the tips are. Open/close pressures can be set using shims and aren't specific to any style of injector. There's no such thing as a "specific horsepower adding" injector for an IDI. And only one style that I know of personally as a "performance" injector, but it's designed to work specifically with the guy's custom-designed injection pump. Just find yourself a brand new set of Delphi BB code injectors for around $300 and you'll be good to go.

The injection pump is calibrated on a machine to push fuel; there's no set amount for each pump to be exactly like the other; they need to be calibrated individually. What works for one pump won't necessarily work for the next. The screw to turn up the pump is on the passenger side behind the little plate.

Do yourself a favor and don't touch that screw until you have an EGT gauge.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 08:11 AM
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Lol so I keep hearing, I think you'd have to be giving it alot of fuel to burn the pistons but I'm not the guy who wants to test it out. I'm already on a budget so I do t need to blow it on silliness. I have read and understand the procedure to do it though I was just curious as to what it actually is moving.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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It's not the amount of fuel in the chamber... it's the lack of air. And the compression ratio heats up the cylinder a lot, regardless of how much fuel is in the cylinder.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 10:13 AM
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Has anyone actually seen the burnt up pistons? These engines have piston cooling/lubricating oil pipes. From a design and function perspective these engines are way over built. The first time I saw piston oilers it was in a 5000 hp stationary diesel. Not sure how much oil actually comes out of them but given the oil cooler and piston coolers. I imagine these engines can see some serious heat and abuse. Just a passing thought, no evidence to support it. Just by design though one would think 15 pounds of boost and some extra fuel would almost make these old coal rollers happier.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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These were close. They had been hot on more than one occasion.

 
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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Is that cracking in the piston Too or just the carbon? Definitely not burning all the fuel. Was that a pump turned up? Low compression? Or a bad injector?
 
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