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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 06:30 AM
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All bids are not necessarily shown.

If you put a max bid in and someone else does too, the system automatically bids up to that point for you and you'll never see each incremental bid.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Area351
All bids are not necessarily shown.

If you put a max bid in and someone else does too, the system automatically bids up to that point for you and you'll never see each incremental bid.
You can see all bids , just click the "show automatic bids" button
total of 5 bids
$50
$50
$51
$75
$500
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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Wow....I'm keeping my spare '69 grille. Maybe in a few years I can pay the house off with it!!!!

Or put my original back on and take the NOS one back off and store it?? I think I paid $75 for it about 20 yrs ago.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKES 68 F100
You can see all bids , just click the "show automatic bids" button
total of 5 bids
$50
$50
$51
$75
$500
I still say it's automatic bidding. I don't believe that if someone had a $75 bid on it with a max bid of say $499 and someone else bid $500 you would not see automatic bids for every dollar up to the max bid.

You would see what you posted. A bid for $75 and then another buyer with a bid for $500.

I'm not saying that there isn't any shilling going on, but I highly doubt it. Regardless, that grille isn't worth anywhere near that price and if they are bringing that kind of money, I'm going to list my spare aluminum grille and would gladly take $500 for it.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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lol i agee that grille is not worth $500 +100 shipping . I have a spare 68 grille being used as wall art . thinking about putting it on if i can get that $$
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Ok ladies, ladies, ladies!!!! Can we get back to what is wrong with this grille!
Besides the fact that it is not worth the price someone has bid up to.
Here's what I see, can you add more to this list?

#1.) Headlight bezel un-repairable
#2.) Headlight buckets are from 70-72
#3.) Headlight adjustment assemblies on one side are 70-72
#4.) Damage to grille shell below turn signal housing
#5.) Holes in grille shell caused by in-correct buckets
#6.) Appears there is a small wire holding something on the headlight area.
You can see the wire if you look close.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gangstakr
#1.) Headlight bezel un-repairable
#2.) Headlight buckets are from 70-72
#3.) Headlight adjustment assemblies on one side are 70-72
#4.) Damage to grille shell below turn signal housing
#5.) Holes in grille shell caused by in-correct buckets
#6.) Appears there is a small wire holding something on the headlight area.
You can see the wire if you look close.
Well I knew number #2 for sure. I didn't really want to point out damage but if someone wants to pay $500 for that grille, that's on them. Damage is plainly seen.......

One other thing to point out, its not a 1969 "ranger" grille. There should be 2 holes, if I remember correctly, along the center of the red line for the center "Ranger" emblem to be mounted. Also, Ranger headlight bezels are painted flat black along the inside of the headlight bezel that surrounds the headlight. So if someone was looking for a 1969 Ranger grille, this one would not be correct without modifying the grille......and if I pay that much for a grille that I will eventually have to sink more money into to meet my application, it should at least be correct for my application. Little things like that are often over looked.

1969 Ranger grill
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1969-Ford-F100-F-100-F250-F-250-Ranger-Pickup-Pick-Up-Truck-Grill-Grille-/251317762458?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a83b4b99a&vxp=mtr
1969 custom grill

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALUMINIUM-GRILL-FOR-A-1967-1969-FORD-XLT-67-68-69-70-71-72-TRUCK-/111167782476?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19e21dbe4c&vxp=mtr
Also, the custom grill auction I posted above says 1967-69 XLT.......no XLT until 1970.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by williamwilliam
Well I knew number #2 for sure. I didn't really want to point out damage but if someone wants to pay $500 for that grill, that's on them. Damage is plainly seen.......

One other thing to point out, its not a 1969 "ranger" grill. There should be 2 holes, if I remember correctly, along the center of the red line for the center "Ranger" emblem to be mounted. Also, Ranger headlight bezels are painted flat black along the inside of the headlight bezel that surrounds the headlight. So if someone was looking for a 1969 Ranger grill, this one would not be correct without modifying the grill......and if I pay that much for a grill that I will eventually have to sink more money into to meet my application, it should at least be correct for my application. Little things like that are often over looked.

1969 Ranger grill
1967 1969 Ford F100 F 100 F250 F 250 Ranger Pickup Pick Up Truck Grill Grille | eBay

1969 custom grill

Aluminium Grill for A 1967 1969 Ford XLT 67 68 69 70 71 72 Truck | eBay

Also, the custom grill auction I posted above says 1967-69 XLT.......no XLT until 1970.
The grille in question is not claiming to be a "69 Ranger grille" If it was a Ranger grille the headlight bezels are not only painted black the bezels are 69 Ranger only. Here's a comparison shot. Ranger bezel on left. Notice the area that gets painted black is indented.
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#dfdfdf" colspan="2"></td></tr><tr><td align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" colspan="2"></td></tr></tbody></table>These bezels will fit 67-69 but are not Ranger.
Keep in mind that we're talking about this grille and it's flaws.
Thanks for pointing out the other grilles, but I kinda wanted to educate one grille at a time.
To much info to some folks is overload and their brains will blow.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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True, but the seller is claiming that it is a 67-69 grille.....which its not. It's a 69 custom grille.....might as well educate the peeps on what it is they are actually over bidding on while your at it.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Someone always gets screwed now an then when they don't do their homework.
Only believing the sellers post...orich
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by williamwilliam
True, but the seller is claiming that it is a 67-69 grill.....which its not. It's a 69 custom grill.....might as well educate the peeps on what it is they are actually over bidding on while your at it.
"This is a 69 Custom Cab grille."
This grille will bolt up to a 67 68 and 69 with no issues. This grille will also bolt on a 70 71 and a 72. If using on a 70 71 72 you will need to remove the turn signal housings from the lower valance/rock guard. For proper fit use a lower valance/rock guard from a 67 68 or 69.
Lower valances are different for these years.
67 68 and 69 same
(two different valances)
70 71 and 72 same
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gangstakr
"This is a 69 Custom Cab grille."
This grille will bolt up to a 67 68 and 69 with no issues. This grille will also bolt on a 70 71 and a 72. If using on a 70 71 72 you will need to remove the turn signal housings from the lower valance/rock guard. For proper fit use a lower valance/rock guard from a 67 68 or 69.
Lower valances are different for these years.
67 68 and 69 same
(two different valances)
70 71 and 72 same
Now we talking!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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1969 Ranger grille center horizontal bar painted red within its dished in section.

1969 Ranger R/L specific headlamp doors are painted black within the dished in area that surrounds the seal beams.

1967/69 F100/750 & 1970/72 F500/750 have right/left specific headlamp buckets. 1969/74 Econoline: R/L buckets same, same as these trucks right side.

1970/72 F100/350 headlamp buckets R/L specific. Are the same as 1970 Mustang.

1970: FoMoCo replaced the original 1967/69 F100/350 stone deflector (C7TZ-17A862-A) with the 1970 (1970/72) F100/350 stone deflector (D0TZ-17A862-A) for use as a service part replacement.

Where is the 1969 only F100/350 Custom Cab grille listed in this parts catalog grille section? No see um.

Catalog sez C8TZ-8200-E Bright Finish (anodized aluminum): 1968 F100/350 & 1969 F100/350 except Ranger. In other words, 1968 F100/350 Custom Cab & Ranger, 1969 F100/350 Custom Cab only.

The thing is: FoMoCo is in-famous for replacing 10's of 1000's of part numbers EVERY YEAR! It was a PITA back then and it's a PITA today!

So you have to know what parts are original vs what parts were replaced at some later date.

The other thing is: Some people do not know and never will, because they have no Ford literature of any kind. No parts catalogs, owners/shop manuals, sales/accessory brochures, no nothing!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
1969 Ranger grille center horizontal bar painted red within its dished in section.

1969 Ranger R/L specific headlamp doors are painted black within the dished in area that surrounds the seal beams.

1967/69 F100/750 & 1970/72 F500/750 have right/left specific headlamp buckets. 1969/74 Econoline: R/L buckets same, same as these trucks right side.

1970/72 F100/350 headlamp buckets R/L specific. Are the same as 1970 Mustang.

1970: FoMoCo replaced the original 1967/69 F100/350 stone deflector (C7TZ-17A862-A) with the 1970 (1970/72) F100/350 stone deflector (D0TZ-17A862-A) for use as a service part replacement.

Where is the 1969 only F100/350 Custom Cab grille listed in this parts catalog grille section? No see um.

Catalog sez C8TZ-8200-E Bright Finish (anodized aluminum): 1968 F100/350 & 1969 F100/350 except Ranger. In other words, 1968 F100/350 Custom Cab & Ranger, 1969 F100/350 Custom Cab only.

The thing is: FoMoCo is in-famous for replacing 10's of 1000's of part numbers EVERY YEAR! It was a PITA back then and it's a PITA today!

So you have to know what parts are original vs what parts were replaced at some later date.

The other thing is: Some people do not know and never will, because they have no Ford literature of any kind. No parts catalogs, owners/shop manuals, sales/accessory brochures, no nothing!
Ok, that's all good information, what about the grille we are talking about?
You can't expect everyone to know what you know, so what does this information have to do with what is wrong with this grille?
I'll bet 75% of the people who read this thread did not know that the headlight buckets from a 70 will not work properly in a 69 grille. Even for some one who has all the books but no first hand knowledge of these parts, still has to rely on pictures NOT part numbers to identify a 69 custom cab or a 69 ranger grille. There's NO part numbers stamped on these parts. Same goes for headlight bezels NO part numbers stamped on them either.
Many people who I have talked to did not know there was a difference in headlight bezels. Most thought you just need to paint the area black and now it's a ranger.
Even look at D.C. or LMC parts book when it comes to the ranger bezel they say "needs to be painted" that does not distinguish the difference.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Parts books can sometimes be confusing......
A 1969 custom cab did not come with a 1968 grille. 1969 custom/standard cab trucks came with a Corinthian White painted grille, which was changed back MID YEAR to an anodized grille. I do not see a part number listed for the painted or standard anodized grille for a 1969 truck that you posted, I only see a Ranger part number listed, but I can assure you that Ford made them. I posted a pic of a 1969 anodized custom cab grille above......so whats the part number on the 1969 custom grille I posted above along with the 1969 Ranger grille since its not listed? That's why I say you cant always go by a Ford parts book. This is yet another instance of that.
 
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