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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 06:57 AM
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Oh im SORRY, I forgot I was under the impression that this was my truck, not yours? To each his own. Im doing it because I want to. That's why. Because both of my obs fords, ( 90 f350 idi, 87 f250) Both of the frames had cracks. And this one is a beautiful truck that I wont let die on me.
Someone didn't have their coffee yet... lol.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:01 AM
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I haven't yet actually, no lol

Brad just comes off as a chode
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:20 AM
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Urban dictionary to the rescue. lol.

I kind of agree with him though. Boxing a frame, beefing up crossmembers, sometimes that puts stress in areas that weren't designed for it, and creates other problems. I had done some research and reading about it a while back, when I first got my F150 crew cab. Because the frame was stretched by Centurion, there's a whole lot of flex going on at the bed. Kinda worried me a bit, but I ended up just plating the outside rails.

I read enough about boxing to realize that I probably didn't need it, and more importantly, I didn't want to put stress on any areas that weren't designed for it.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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If you take her wheeling on a regular basis, I could see replacing the factory tank with a cell.

The whole reason my bronco got a cell was because I dropped off a ledge and caught the back of my tank, ruined my wheeling trip since it wouldn't hold fuel anymore. I had been thinking about doing it for awhile to improve my departure angle anyway.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by garthneddy
If you take her wheeling on a regular basis, I could see replacing the factory tank with a cell.

The whole reason my bronco got a cell was because I dropped off a ledge and caught the back of my tank, ruined my wheeling trip since it wouldn't hold fuel anymore. I had been thinking about doing it for awhile to improve my departure angle anyway.
Do you have a part number by chance ?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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I have a 60 gallon schoolbus tank in the back of my truck. It is a strict mud vehicle so I'm not concerned about bed space. It has a big cross box that is 2" from the bed of the floor (super deep box) and the tank is behind it. It sucks because my spare 40" tire doesn't lay flat.
Technically the DOT doesn't allow any fuel tank to be attached to the engine that can allow gravity feed.
As far as stiffening the frame. What material were you going to use. Mild steel when bent will stay that way, the heat treated steel frame will twist back by itself. If you box or plate the frame then you are hindering the flexing aspect of the frame and if flexed too much, it will stay twisted. I had a ranger v8 that I had built for Offroad, after I put 38s on it I broke the crossmember rivets and pulled truck apart and beefed it up.... Then when I ran out of articulation getting pulled out once, frame was bent and didn't go back. Oops. I straightened it and completed my reinforcing with heavier material and did the complete frame this time, and had zero issues after.
If you're going to strengthen frame, make sure you remove all the flex, because you'll create high stress areas where the original frame meets the reinforced section. Now I have a full size f250 supercab longbed with about 8" lift and 40s. Check out my website in signature. It's nothing special. Just say you want to reduce flex so you don't rip cab mounts out like I did. Too much beating and too much flex.
460 4spd, 350 gears, welded rear diff, low range, 3rd gear at 5-6000rpm.

Brad is one of the most respected and knowledgable members of the forum. He can defend himself, but if you want to see he correct way of reinforcing a frame, he is doing it on his badass diesel as we speak. Proper material for the application and no detail left untouched as usual more than likely.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by firerescue9
Do you have a part number by chance ?
I'm trying to find it. I thought I ordered it through summit but its not showing up as a previous purchase under my user name.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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If you're putting a fuel cell in the bed, you can use any one you want. I'd get a big one.
Problem is the ones with ford sending units are significantly higher cost usually.
If you don't care about knowing fuel level, get a cheap one. Just look and you'll see. Summit is easy to look stuff up at.
Any fuel cell will work.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by firerescue9
Oh im SORRY, I forgot I was under the impression that this was my truck, not yours? To each his own. Im doing it because I want to. That's why. Because both of my obs fords, ( 90 f350 idi, 87 f250) Both of the frames had cracks. And this one is a beautiful truck that I wont let die on me.
And the crack had what to do with the stock frame? NOTHING. It had everything to do with abuse and neglect.

But it is your truck. Go box it, then nothing will bolt on like it was designed, it will trap dirt and moisture then rot out. And Like Untamd said,it will most likely bend and not bend back

This is just a PIPE DREAM on your part. You can't even UNBOLT a fuel tank, so what makes you think you could plumb and or wire a fuel cell or box a frame.

You are PATHETIC

Let us NOT FORGET this thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...c-apology.html
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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And the crack had what to do with the stock frame? NOTHING. It had everything to do with abuse and neglect.

But it is your truck. Go box it, then nothing will bolt on like it was designed, it will trap dirt and moisture then rot out. And Like Untamd said,it will most likely bend and not bend back

This is just a PIPE DREAM on your part. You can't even UNBOLT a fuel tank, so what makes you think you could plumb and or wire a fuel cell or box a frame.

You are PATHETIC

Let us NOT FORGET this thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...c-apology.html
I dont care what anyone says about your "knowledge", you are the biggest a-hole on any of the forums i belong to. Your flaming me for wanting to box in a frame that wheelers do ALL the time?

No one said i couldnt unbolt a fuel tank. Not once did i say that. I said i cant drop it because i have a home built hitch that is welded on the frame under the tank.

And i cant plump or wire? Please. I just got done plumbing my whole engine with AN fittings and stainless lines. I litterly made my own wiring harness off of RJM's write up.

I may ask for ideas and have stupid thoughts every now and then, and its usually when Im stumped at 3am, but that doesnt mean you can go attack someone for asking.


P.s. Your a cop if I remember? Example A why firefighters hate cops. There ******.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by firerescue9
I dont care what anyone says about your "knowledge", you are the biggest a-hole on any of the forums i belong to. Your flaming me for wanting to box in a frame that wheelers do ALL the time?

P.s. Your a cop if I remember? Example A why firefighters hate cops. There ******.
Don't get nasty. Brad is one of the most helpful guys on here and he knows how to do things right. Yes, he doesn't mind being blunt when you're doing something that may cause harm, be dangerous, be counterproductive, etc... But that's fine. I'd rather hear something bluntly and to the point before I go and mess something up. Quit hating on him.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
And the crack had what to do with the stock frame? NOTHING. It had everything to do with abuse and neglect.

But it is your truck. Go box it, then nothing will bolt on like it was designed, it will trap dirt and moisture then rot out. And Like Untamd said,it will most likely bend and not bend back

This is just a PIPE DREAM on your part. You can't even UNBOLT a fuel tank, so what makes you think you could plumb and or wire a fuel cell or box a frame.

You are PATHETIC

Let us NOT FORGET this thread https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...c-apology.html
Lol i love it, knew that thread would bring itself back up
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by UNTAMND
460 4spd, 350 gears, welded rear diff, low range, 3rd gear at 5-6000rpm.
mud truck beating - YouTube
To change the subject a bit...that video was darn cool! The ol F-250 rocks!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cbrown9064
To change the subject a bit...that video was darn cool! The ol F-250 rocks!
The truck twisted so much that it ripped a cab mount off and pulled the bed bolt through the floor.
Broke engine mount, blew ps pump, and clutch slave gave up. It loved every minute of the abuse. I drove it the rest of the day and in another mud hole twisted it so the steering shaft come out of its tube.
Fun times.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 05:23 AM
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P.s. how do you drop the tank? I have a 90 f350 idi frame in the backyard, and everything is stripped off it except for the rear tank because i couldnt figure it out. Its like in there so perfect lol the sides of the tank sit on the frame.

Sorry, dont see ONE mention of a hitch being welded on.

Originally Posted by firerescue9
I dont care what anyone says about your "knowledge", you are the biggest a-hole on any of the forums i belong to. Your flaming me for wanting to box in a frame that wheelers do ALL the time?


Thanks. A hole is my middle name. People who STRICTLY wheel their truck box their frame, but they also know how to remove a fuel tank. Untamed explained why

No one said i couldnt unbolt a fuel tank. Not once did i say that. I said i cant drop it because i have a home built hitch that is welded on the frame under the tank.

Again, dodnt see anywhere it said anything a bout a hitch being the problem

And i cant plump or wire? Please. I just got done plumbing my whole engine with AN fittings and stainless lines. I litterly made my own wiring harness off of RJM's write up.

I may ask for ideas and have stupid thoughts every now and then, and its usually when Im stumped at 3am, but that doesnt mean you can go attack someone for asking.

Who is attacking?(O that is right , YOU are the one calling names) Mearling stating a FACT. No need to box your frame, and you were flat aout LIEING in yout 1st thread on here and came up with som BS story trying to cover your tracks

P.s. Your a cop if I remember? Example A why firefighters hate cops. There ******.

Sorry, no cop here. Again, the name calling.

Also. The title to this thread is "fuel-cell-in-bed-thoughts" So that means YOU want others THOUGHTS. You got em. just because it is something you dont want to hear, you dont have to be childish about it and throw a temper tantrum
 
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